I do understand people cry about bulldozer. Look at the facts: it took AMD what, 4 years to develope this new uarch? After a 4 year wait expectations are sky high. You'd expect a product that has been tried, tested, optimized and enhanced as much as possible. You'd expect a product that can compete with Intel and something that is at least a whole lot faster than it's predecessor.

What do you get? A cpu that runs blistering hot, comsumes more power than all the rest of the electrical devices in and around the house together and yet has an IPC that is lower than it's predecessor and not just by a small margin.

How can you speak of a quality product after all that? Overall faster than Thuban? Someone forgot to give me that memo?

Isn't it kinda rediculous we have to wait another timespan (god knows how long) for Piledriver to get what Bulldozer was supposed to be?

Wake up and smell the coffee.