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    Well Im about to find out!

    I have 2 x .37A fans im about to run up on another channel and see what happens.
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    It would be nice for someone to make some testing scheme that gradually rises power usage in each channel and to test AA5 in all three cooling modes to find out maximum handled output values in numbers (no cooling|passive heatsink|waterblock).
    And while Shoggy wrote that due to possible different clearances using TIM paste instead of thermal pads on waterblock is not advised .. imho with some care it could be tested too, after all, AA5's schematics monitor temps and can switch off in case of overheat anyway.

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    Well the answer is...............

    3 x 370mA fans at 4.4v drawing 300mA and 2 x D5 pumps at 7v is the safe limit with the shared 3&4 channels heating to 85c. Adding a 4th fan on the channel pushes it to draw 420mA and right on 95c.

    Test Config
    Ch1 Waterflow meter 68c
    Ch2 1 x D5 running @ 7v 800mA 68c
    Ch3 3 x 370mA fans running at 4.4v 300mA 85c
    Ch4 1 x D5 running @ 7v 800mA 85c

    This means in theory you could run 2 x D5s and 6 x 370mA fans across the other 2 channels. (i have a flow meter on ch1 which you could theoretically put another 3 fans on)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatboy69 View Post
    Well the answer is...............

    3 x 370mA fans at 4.4v drawing 300mA and 2 x D5 pumps at 7v is the safe limit with the shared 3&4 channels heating to 85c. Adding a 4th fan on the channel pushes it to draw 420mA and right on 95c.

    Test Config
    Ch1 Waterflow meter 68c
    Ch2 1 x D5 running @ 7v 800mA 68c
    Ch3 3 x 370mA fans running at 4.4v 300mA 85c
    Ch4 1 x D5 running @ 7v 800mA 85c

    This means in theory you could run 2 x D5s and 6 x 370mA fans across the other 2 channels. (i have a flow meter on ch1 which you could theoretically put another 3 fans on)
    Thanks! You are helping me a great deal.

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    Maybe try to put fans on Ch1 as well instead of flow meter (and move one of D5 to it, to make them even more apart)

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    Problem is the PA2's dont accurately measure the Koolance flow meters where as the A5 does. Otherwise I would be using Ch1 for something more useful.

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    Phatboy69: i mean - just for time of max power output of AA5 tests.

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    Another time.. I have to get off to sleep for work in the morning!

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    How should I connect Aquaero XT, Aquaero LT and PA2.

    PA2 must be connected via aquabus high so AE LT to aquabus low or vice versa?

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    @Paradoxxx: adjusting the fans to the temperature of the CPU/GPU will not make much sense. For example if you start a large program it will give a full load for a few seconds and the temperature will rise up - but also speeding up the fans in this scenario is worthless because the water temperature will not have changed at all in this short period.

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    @mBrane: sure, all fan channels can monitor the rpm signal - no matter if a fan/pump is connected to them or not.

    @NKrader: using a poweradjust 2 standard for this setup would solve some "problems". When using two flow sensors directly on the aquaero you will have to reconfigure fan channel 1 for this so you will lose it for fans or a pump and will end up with three of them for two pumps and two groups of fans. With the poweradjust you can connect the second flow sensor there so it will not block fan channel 1 on the aquaero and since the poweradjust itself offers a powerful output you have 5 outputs now.

    @pociej: an aquaero LT can not be connected to another aquaero. You have to use USB. Using an aquaero LT as a slave device is an idea which will take some time before it becomes reality.

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    Shoggy, any planned shipping date for poweradjust2 standard ? I received the faceplate but not my PA2 yet
    Also do i need any extra cable to connect the PA2 and AE5 ? Or everything is included ?
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    Have you ordered it directly from us? If so you can drop me a PM with your order number. AFAIK there are only ultra variants in stock but I can easily change them to a standard to get your order shipped. The necessary 3-pin cable for aquabus comes with the PA2.
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    Looking forward to BETA 3 - thanks shoggy

    Right - With a HUUGE risk of sounding like a noob - Can anyone tell me how to set this thing up so that Fans 1 (for example) turn up and down with the water temp pretty please? No manual makes it all that bit confuzzling.

    thanks in advance.
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    Thanks Shoggy, yes it was ordered directly from AC.de, PM sent

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    @Paradoxxx: adjusting the fans to the temperature of the CPU/GPU will not make much sense. For example if you start a large program it will give a full load for a few seconds and the temperature will rise up - but also speeding up the fans in this scenario is worthless because the water temperature will not have changed at all in this short period.
    It may not be ideal but I think it can work, the fan speed can be set to "incrementally" increase with time right? During the start of the large program the fan speed will increase just a little and then return to normal. Or in the case of gaming, my GPU temps are usually at 37C idle, upon load it rises +10C as such I can increase fan speeds accordingly. If there was a flow/temp sensor all in one I would consider purchasing one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomee View Post
    Looking forward to BETA 3 - thanks shoggy

    Right - With a HUUGE risk of sounding like a noob - Can anyone tell me how to set this thing up so that Fans 1 (for example) turn up and down with the water temp pretty please? No manual makes it all that bit confuzzling.

    thanks in advance.
    Its pretty simple

    First name your water temp sensor something useful like Water Temp1 and then setup a controller and name it something useful like Ch1 Fans.
    Select the type of controller you want, for example use a set point controller to set the ideal temp for your water and then assign the water loop temp sensor to that controller.

    You may want to set minimum power or rpm settings for the fan so that it wont stop completely if water temp is under your target temp. You will also need to check the hold minimum power check box for this to work.

    Thats all i can do to help while at work. If you have problems I'll give you a detailed menu instruction when I have some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paradoxxx View Post
    It may not be ideal but I think it can work, the fan speed can be set to "incrementally" increase with time right? During the start of the large program the fan speed will increase just a little and then return to normal. Or in the case of gaming, my GPU temps are usually at 37C idle, upon load it rises +10C as such I can increase fan speeds accordingly. If there was a flow/temp sensor all in one I would consider purchasing one.
    It sounds fine in theory but in practice it doesnt really do anything except create noise. It takes a good few seconds (if not minutes depending on your setup) for water temp to be effected whether being cooled or heated sufficiently to effect the operating temp of the CPU or GPU.

    Using Water temp is a much smoother way of controlling fan speeds. I suppose you could have a max temp setting for the GPU temp and trigger a full speed fan alarm event as a back up to the normal controller/sensor for the GPU.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoggy View Post
    @mBrane: sure, all fan channels can monitor the rpm signal - no matter if a fan/pump is connected to them or not.
    I am referring to the 1-8 sensor channels, not the fan channels. Can the sensor channels be used to monitor RPM, too, or just temp sensors?

    This would be a handy feature, if you could do this with a firmware tweak.

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    BETA 3:
    http://aquacomputer.com/software.html

    Your page was also removed after an upgrade?
    Import a previously saved page does not work.
    Last edited by pociej; 05-31-2011 at 04:48 AM.

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    I did some reconfiguring today.
    Ive loaded the 4 D5 pumps onto the controllers and they work a treat!
    I have the following config now:

    A5
    Ch1 PA2 Fans
    Ch2 D5-1 GPU Loop
    Ch3 Exhaust Fans
    Ch4 D5-2 GPU Loop

    PA2's
    Ch5 CPU Rad1 Fans
    Ch6 CPU Rad2 Fans
    Ch7 GPU Rad1 Fans
    Ch8 GPU Rad2 Fans
    Ch9 D5-1 CPU Loop
    Ch10 D5-2 CPU Loop

    Flowmeter 1 CPU Loop
    Flowmeter 8 GPU Loop

    Temp Sensors
    T15 Ambient Air Temp
    T13 Rad Air In Temp
    T7 Internal Air Temp
    T14 Rad Air Out Temp

    T1 CPU Water in
    T2 CPU Water out
    T3 CPU Water Res out
    T4 GPU Water in
    T5 GPU Water out
    T6 GPU Water Res out
    T8 CPU Temp
    T16 GPU Temp

    Here's a 15min Furmark run with 15min cooldown.
    What an amazing piece of technology!
    Reallllly quiet for normal computing and light gaming, but an absolute powerhouse when required. All seamlessly controlled.





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    Thats quite alot of sensor information!
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    Thank you for the hard work!

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    Beta 3 works great


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    Quote Originally Posted by mBrane View Post
    Can the sensor channels be used to monitor RPM, too, or just temp sensors?
    They are for temperature sensors and will never be available to monitor anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phatboy69 View Post
    I did some reconfiguring today.
    Ive loaded the 4 D5 pumps onto the controllers and they work a treat!
    I have the following config now:
    PA2's
    Ch5 CPU Rad1 Fans
    Ch6 CPU Rad2 Fans
    Ch7 GPU Rad1 Fans
    Ch8 GPU Rad2 Fans
    Ch9 D5-1 CPU Loop
    Ch10 D5-2 CPU Loop
    SNIP*
    Are you able to turn down the D5 pumps very low and still be able to keep them at these levels for extended periods of time?

    Or do the PA2s get overheated when you have them at a low voltage?

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