Bulldozers first screens

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I don't think anyone is expecting for something as disastrous as the original Phenom, I think people are expecting something more akin to something like Phenom II which was decent for a company with the resources AMD has. I think with all the framework with current CPU's, it is hard to gain single core performance because the biggest improvements have already been implemented. Sandy bridge for example isn't as impressive an improvement clock for clock as nehalem and nehalem was as impressive as core 2 duo vs P4 architecture.

I think expecting something that's going to beat for example ivy bridge for example or even match it clock for clock core for core is super unlikely. It would be the biggest improvement of all time, bigger than core 2 duo vs p4. Ivy bridge is supposed to be 20 percent faster and with sandy bridges lead over phenom II it would have to be a monster gain that is pretty much impossible.

I used to love AMD for their processors but they have continued to disappoint over and over again. Their overclocking ability is less consistent than Intels which make them less fun. Unless your working with LN2 i guess or liquid helium with the most recent processors. They are so much slower clock for clock too. So that why I wouldn't set my expectation too high for bulldozer as well as a lack of anything to show. Intel shows things months ahead of time because they are confidence about their processors, AMD just seems less confident.

Well, so YOU seem to be expecting something disastrous, just not AS disastrous as phenom I (i guess the first TLB bug version, B3 was not that much worse than Q6xxx)
And by "people" i think you mean intel fanboys, because normal people have pretty high expectations of bulldozer, its such a radical departure, first brand new architecture from AMD for years, and all that on brand new (for AMD) process.
Going further in your post.Such a small company like AMD with the resources thay have, had surpassed intel before, so its not like ypu present it ,like its impossible ;-).
NOBODY expects it to beat/match ivybridge clock for clock or core for core.
Ivybridge is a year away, and on a new process, which wont be available for AMD at the same time.And more importantly, definition and inner workings of amd`s "core" and intels core are such radically different for bulldozer that you cant make comparisons like that.Whats going to be important is performance per $,and/or absolute performance.
At this time, it seems first BD is going to be competing with 4 core sandybridge.With 8 cores and big turbo, it seems like it has a chance.
As for intels confidence, they were confident of a netburst architecture with rambus memory.And where it got them ?

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And by the way, isnt ivybridge just a shrink? Shrink doesnt bring big or huge IPC gains, mainly minor ones.