Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD5 Discussion Thread

[TurboDiv]

Yes I mean that reset jumper that's plugged into the motherboard. Try pulling that out just to see...

When you get overclock failed, do you get two or three boot loops?

I dont get a boot loop, ever. What happens is this:

Machine been off for 9 hours, than I press the power button and than it boots, starts doing its memory check and shows the bios/CPU speed than it suddenly shuts off by itself and boots up again, and than it shows me the "Overclcok failed screen" and asks me to press a button to continue. Thats my only problem ever since B2. Than i press a button and log into the bios - SAVE AND EXIT and than it boots perfectly fine and stable untill i shut it down for 9 hours and than the same procedure. I have never had more than 1 self-reboot on the board.

ps; Very rarely, the board re-boots like described above but manages to keep its settings and doesnt give me "overclcok failed" screen. It just reboots with no reason and than loads windows. Thats extremely rare tho, most of the time it comes with overclcok failed screen after it does it.

ps2: My intel SSD is hooked up on the second white 6gbps SATA 3 port. Is it a Marvle controller or Intel controller for the white SATA 3 ports on this mobo ?

[AMD_Freak]

I've been using sleep=S3 only + Intel G1 and G2 now on different platforms for a looong time and never had problems. Actually now I remember when G1 came out I had sleep problem on Vista for a short time but don't remember what was the culprit. I think it was Intel AHCI driver. Maybe it's OCZ thing but I doubt that. To say on official forum SSD + sleep is a no go that's bs, someone didn't do their job.
But if works for you... that's good.

I really don't know either but since I have turned it off I haven't had problems I am by no way a fan of OCZ and this SSD will be my last purchase from them I did how ever do a google on the Issue and did find others saying the same things with BSOD and boot loops with other brands of SSD and find it hard to think its a SSD issue for everyone since some prolly are not using them so far the f3g has been the best for me ive been able to use PPL 1 without issue. if i remember tonight Ill try to enable the s3
and see what happens in the morning.

[Falkentyne]

I dont get a boot loop, ever. What happens is this:

Machine been off for 9 hours, than I press the power button and than it boots, starts doing its memory check and shows the bios/CPU speed than it suddenly shuts off by itself and boots up again, and than it shows me the "Overclcok failed screen" and asks me to press a button to continue. Thats my only problem ever since B2. Than i press a button and log into the bios - SAVE AND EXIT and than it boots perfectly fine and stable untill i shut it down for 9 hours and than the same procedure. I have never had more than 1 self-reboot on the board.

ps; Very rarely, the board re-boots like described above but manages to keep its settings and doesnt give me "overclcok failed" screen. It just reboots with no reason and than loads windows. Thats extremely rare tho, most of the time it comes with overclcok failed screen after it does it.

ps2: My intel SSD is hooked up on the second white 6gbps SATA 3 port. Is it a Marvle controller or Intel controller for the white SATA 3 ports on this mobo ?

You just described a boot loop, my friend Well, a double boot. Just not an infinite boot loop.
It says 100x34 when you see that screen, right before the restart, right?

Try removing the RESET jumper just to see. Because that's exactly what happens if I press RESET to reset the computer, or if I go too high with PLL Overvoltage disabled. (I do have the reset jumper on, but I don't use it since it boot loops (twice) then OC failed.

BTW I also have the RAM set to turbo and timings set to "quick" and 13.33 manually; I don't know if that has any effect, but I saw something months ago (pre-B3) saying setting to "quick"/speed helped.

[AMD_Freak]

for info purpose ill add this maybe we can figure something out : I have my SSD in the top white port nothing in the 2nd all other drives are in the black ports 2-DVDs / 2HDs, I have the ram set to 1866/ 101.0 fsb in slots 2&4 just to allow better air flow to the bottom of the cpu cooler I guess

all C-states/EIST/CPU thermal to disable, I wasn't aware of a jumper of any kind so it must be in stock pos. the open case setting is disabled, ram settings to turbo and the other is quick, XMP 1/ PLL overvolt 1.

Im kinda lost why you unplug your PSU? mine has been plugged in since the build. also what is the jumper for?

2 days ago I had my 1st crash while gaming in a week (code 0124) set Vcore up but I feel that was me trying to run at1.27v core now set to 1.280v RAM is set to 1.50v if I raise it to much or try to OC the ram over 102.0 it will crash 9/10 times after 20-30min. @ 9-10-9-28 T1

I have ran LinX for 20+ times any times over not an Issue. Only tried Prime 95 once since I hate it with a passion and figure if its going to crash it will crash with linX or Wprime , vantage, 3Dmark11 I have not had 1 single loop or failed OC since f3C w/PLL disabled now with F3g it is enabled and has been since the day it was posted. I feel pretty confident everything is stable ATM. so if you would like me to try something let me know and we will find out in the AM. it just confuses me as to why some are having troubles and Im not, when its the same board and bios,CPU, it just has to be some setting we are missing. hope this helps in some small way.

[TurboDiv]

I just visited the official Gigabyte site and according to the description for the F3 bios it adresses the reset switch abnormality. I think ill upgrade to this bios tonight.

[Falkentyne]

lol it doesn't.
On F3 final (before I flashed back to f3g), it just boots loops twice instead of three times :/
I don't touch that switch unless I want my CPU back at stock...

Maybe I'll try the onboard reset button and see what happens. nvm...not on F3 final anymore so no point....

[TurboDiv]

OK, so whats next ? PSU ?

I just ordered a brand spanking new OCZ ZX 1250W - 104A on the 12v line(its a single rail monstrosity). This Chinese beast has to hold me for a while, it even has a 80+ GOLD certificate and its on sale for 150$ right now at NCIX after mail in rebate. I mean, i just could not resist at this price. After my memory replacement arrives, if its still doing cold boot crap i dont know what im gonna do, maybe obliterate the mobo...

ps: For those interested, the PSU is built by a Chinese manufacturer called Great Wall which has pretty good reputation over the web, its same PSU that Sparkle uses in their gaming units.

[C-N]

I've got an RMA# for my B2 but having a real hard time letting her go. She is pwning so good but if I ever want to sell the board it'll need to be a B3.

http://hwbot.org/signature.img?iid=5...se&iehack=.jpg

WOW.... Thats awesome man

for info purpose ill add this maybe we can figure something out : I have my SSD in the top white port nothing in the 2nd all other drives are in the black ports 2-DVDs / 2HDs, I have the ram set to 1866/ 101.0 fsb in slots 2&4 just to allow better air flow to the bottom of the cpu cooler I guess

all C-states/EIST/CPU thermal to disable, I wasn't aware of a jumper of any kind so it must be in stock pos. the open case setting is disabled, ram settings to turbo and the other is quick, XMP 1/ PLL overvolt 1.

Maybe this template would help

### MB Intelligent Tweaker ###

Advanced Frequency Settings:

CPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 48

> Advanced CPU Core Features

CPU Clock Ratio .......................................[ 48
Internal CPU PLL Overvoltage...........................[ Enabled
Real Time Ratio Changes In OS .........................[ Disabled
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech .............................[ Disabled
Turbo Ratio (Core 1)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 2)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 3)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Ratio (Core 4)...................................[ Auto
Turbo Power Limit (Watts)..............................[ Auto
Turbo Current Limit (Amps).............................[ Auto
CPU Cores Enabled ............................ ........[ All
CPU Multi Threading....................................[ Enabled  < 2600K Option Not Available With 2500K >
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ...............................[ Disabled
C3/C6 State Support ...................................[ Disabled
CPU Thermal Monitor ...................................[ Disabled
CPU EIST Function .....................................[ Disabled
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ................................[ Enabled

<

Spread Spectrum .......................................[ Disabled < Ctrl + F1 Option >
BCLK/DMI/PEG Clock Control ............................[ Enabled
BCLK/DMI/PEG Frequency Control ........................[ 104.4
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 21.33

Advanced Memory Settings:

System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........................[ 21.33
Performance Enhance ...................................[ Extreme
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) ..........................[ Quick
Channel Interleaving ..................................[ Enabled
Rank Interleaving .....................................[ Enabled

Channel A Timing Settings:

##Channel A Standard Timing Control##

CAS Latency Time ......................................[ 8
tRCD ..................................................[ 9
tRP ...................................................[ 8
tRAS ..................................................[ 20
tRC ...................................................[ 2
tRRD ..................................................[ 1
tWTR ..................................................[ 3
tWR ...................................................[ 1
tWTP ..................................................[ 12
tWL ...................................................[ 6
tRFC ..................................................[ 67
tRTP ..................................................[ 3
tFAW ..................................................[ 32
Command Rate (CMD) ....................................[ 1
IO Latency ............................................[ 2    < DIMM Slot 1 & 3 >
Round Trip Latency ....................................[ Auto

Channel B Timing Settings:

##Channel B Standard Timing Control##

CAS Latency Time ......................................[ 8
tRCD ..................................................[ 9
tRP ...................................................[ 8
tRAS ..................................................[ 20
tRC ...................................................[ 2
tRRD ..................................................[ 1
tWTR ..................................................[ 3
tWR ...................................................[ 1
tWTP ..................................................[ 12
tWL ...................................................[ 6
tRFC ..................................................[ 67
tRTP ..................................................[ 3
tFAW ..................................................[ 32
Command Rate (CMD) ....................................[ 1
IO Latency ............................................[ 2    < DIMM Slot 1 & 3 >
Round Trip Latency ....................................[ Auto

Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU

Load Line Calibration .................................[ Level 1
CPU Vcore .............................................[ 1.355
QPI/VTT Voltage 1.050v ................................[ 0.86
System Agent Voltage 0.925v ...........................[ 0.935
PCH Core 1.050v .......................................[ 1.12
CPU PLL 1.800v ........................................[ 1.54

DRAM

DRAM Voltage 1.500v ...................................[ 1.66
DRAM Vref 0.750v ......................................[ Auto
DRAM Termination 0.750v ...............................[ Auto
Ch-A Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ Auto
Ch-B Data VRef. 0.750v ................................[ Auto
Ch-A Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ Auto
Ch-B Address VRef. 0.750v .............................[ Auto

Miscellaneous Settings

Isochronous Support ...................................[ Disabled
Virtualization Technology .............................[ Disabled

PnP/PCI Configurations:

PCI Latency Timer (CLK) ...............................[128  < Ctrl + F1 Option >

OK, so whats next ? PSU ?

I just ordered a brand spanking new OCZ ZX 1250W - 104A on the 12v line(its a single rail monstrosity).

Sick big bad ass single rail..... like it

[Falkentyne]

C_N:
You said that LLC1 was overvolting when you crossflashed:
Did you try reflashing with the non modded B3 BIOS instead?
Just wondering (wanted to make sure), because I remember someone in the UD7 thread saying that when you crossflash the B2 board to B3, PLL Overvoltage doesn't work at all, until you flash it a second time (with a normal B3 bios).

(I mean it is worth a try...I don't want to post in another forum claiming that B2 and B3 have actual VRM changes unless I'm fully sure...)

[C-N]

C_N:
You said that LLC1 was overvolting when you crossflashed:
Did you try reflashing with the non modded B3 BIOS instead?
Just wondering (wanted to make sure), because I remember someone in the UD7 thread saying that when you crossflash the B2 board to B3, PLL Overvoltage doesn't work at all, until you flash it a second time (with a normal B3 bios).

(I mean it is worth a try...I don't want to post in another forum claiming that B2 and B3 have actual VRM changes unless I'm fully sure...)

Not consciously mate, I flashed from F5x to the latest official B2 BIOS think it was F7 then onto the B3 F3G JZ Mod BIOS then onto the official B3.... F3 Bios. Its funny you mention int pll not working because I remember thinking to myself before working out the voltages needed a PSU power off to set/change properly that I felt maybe int pll had been reduced or something.

My chip boots x49 without int pll & it still as far as I can remember booted x50 on the mod BIOS so I figured it worked just not properly you convince yourself of allsorts of things when stuff don’t work as you expect it so take what I say/said as it is/my experience rather than proven fact...

I am still on F3G & all is well so whatever caused my initial issue has been resolved, maybe it was because I later flashed to B3 F3 & back to B3 F3G im just glad it works now...

[Falkentyne]

Yeah but still that overshoot on LLC1
(I know you flashed with the normal (non modded) F3g, when you went back to it from f3, am I correct?)

[C-N]

Yeah but still that overshoot on LLC1
(I know you flashed with the normal (non modded) F3g, when you went back to it from f3, am I correct?)

Ye still overshoots & ye non modded F3G.

[Falkentyne]

so it seems like Gigabyte fixed a non disclosed hardware flaw, while Asus didn't (people with p8p pro/deluxe B3's having the same problems they did with B2's....most notably random freezes even with manual vcores....)

No wonder the Asus rep completely vanished from hardforum, after apologizing for vanishing previously....

I'm almost afraid to see what will happen with Z68...

[autoct]

Just tryed to update to latest bios from gigabyte site, but I got update bios failed. Can't start the computer anymore, it start then shutdown right away and start back, shutdown... I try to clear cmos with no luck.

[C-N]

Just tryed to update to latest bios from gigabyte site, but I got update bios failed. Can't start the computer anymore, it start then shutdown right away and start back, shutdown... I try to clear cmos with no luck.

Did you update from BIOS or in windows? You perhaps should have tried the update again following the failure before powering off.

The board is dual BIOS so should have recovered.... I have bent the BIOS on my board a few times & it still recovers well but a failed update may be a different story... I would if you haven’t already strip all the components you can from the board.... extra ram, cd/dvd 2nd video card etc & leave the CMOS/BIOS battery out, it don’t need it to post just to remember things. If the board really wont post or loops you could try forcing it to boot from the backup BIOS chip by shorting pin 1 to ground on the main BIOS chip this should get the board to post on the backup chip.... This is not a recommended method but I've used it several times on my UD5 & she's still ticking.

The most sensible thing to do would probably be to have someone piggy back flash your chip on the board or remove the chip & replace it but if you're anything like me you'll work your own method of recovering out

[autoct]

Did you update from BIOS or in windows? You perhaps should have tried the update again following the failure before powering off.

update from windows, but failed at the beginning, I tought there was some kind of safe .

[C-N]

GB flat out are the hardest boards ive ever used to bork the bios i would say safety wise GB are the best when it comes to flashing but on the whole the flashing process is a risk for many reason. I think you got unlucky & unknowingly added to the problem when u rebooted.

[autoct]

If the board really wont post or loops you could try forcing it to boot from the backup BIOS chip by shorting pin 1 to ground on the main BIOS chip this should get the board to post on the backup chip.... This is not a recommended method but I've used it several times on my UD5 & she's still ticking.

Can you say more, how to short that pin and where is it.
Thank you for helping

[C-N]

Can you say more, how to short that pin and where is it.
Thank you for helping

Picture borrowed from Clunks UD5 review

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...:0&tx=62&ty=84

You can see the lower chip is the M BIOS & the arrow to pin 1.... I just shoved a small screwdriver in-between pin 1 & its neighbour which forces the board to change chip & try to post on B BIOS.

Don’t do it if you are not comfortable messing around.... this is not an approved recovery method, your safest option is to RMA or have a pro fix it.

[autoct]

Picture borrowed from Clunks UD5 review

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...:0&tx=62&ty=84

You can see the lower chip is the M BIOS & the arrow to pin 1.... I just shoved a small screwdriver in-between pin 1 & its neighbour which forces the board to change chip & try to post on B BIOS.

Don’t do it if you are not comfortable messing around.... this is not an approved recovery method, your safest option is to RMA or have a pro fix it.

thank you but, it didn't work. the computer boot for less than a sec before shutting down

[C-N]

thank you but, it didn't work. the computer boot for less than a sec before shutting down

Oh well, it was still worth a try... I guess you are going to have to send the board off for repair.

The board will boot loop to change BIOS chip just like it does sometimes when you get stuff wrong & it posts OC failed or chip corrupt. I have severely bent my UD5 BIOS 3 times, twice I recovered it within 1/2 hour & once took 1/2 the day. I also have a post diagnostic card so could tell I was making progress as the display would get further & further until I got into BIOS. If you don’t have a diagnostic card id say it will be very difficult.

[Falkentyne]

Please try THIS that was posted over on tweaktown also:

----------------
It is possible to make the BIOS Auto-Recovery kick in (Dual BIOS) and re-flash the MAIN BIOS with the contents of the BACKUP BIOS.

This is a simple and easy method for anyone to try before having to resort to other more difficult methods, or a RMA.

1. Shut off the power supply using the switch on the back of the PSU, wait 10-15 seconds.
2. Press and hold the case Power On swtich, then while still holding turn on the power supply from the switch on the rear.
3. Still holding the case power on switch, the board will start, once it does release the case power on switch and shut off the power supply via the switch on the read of the unit. (Do the latter two parts as quickly as you can once the board starts)
4. The board will shut down.
5. Turn the power supply back on using the switch on the rear of the unit.
6. Turn on the motherboard by pressing the case power on button.

Once the board starts this time you should see the Gigabyte splash screen, or POST page, then the Auto-Recovery from Dual BIOS will kick in. You will see a checksum error, and then recovery from BACKUP BIOS will begin. Once it is done reboot your machine and enter the BIOS and load optimized defaults then save/apply/reboot back to BIOS.

Now you are done, and will be using whatever BIOS was in your BACKUP BIOS, From there you can attempt whatever you were previously trying, or update your BIOS to the latest version.
===========

Also, why did you use @bios to update the bios?
That's been the primary cause of a lot of bricked boards... Flashing in windows and then something goes wrong. You should always use FlashSPI with a DOS boot flash drive to update the BIOS as this is 100% safe and working, and even worked on the original release of the B2 bios (where it was claimed that flashSPI didnt work-when it was qflash that didn't work until after the board was updated to something qflash could recognize).

Anyway, try that thing. If the board recovers, use a flash bootable drive and use the HP storage format tool to format a usb flash drive, and you can grab the windows 98 startup files to make it bootable with it. A search (I think the link was posted here) should bring up a link along with the 98 startup files too. Useful utility.

BTW, C_N's method should have worked. Perhaps you weren't shorting the pins correctly? They are extremely small...

[autoct]

I will try this tomorrow morning, I used @bios because I never had trouble in the past, I was thinking if they still offer this method, it shouldn't be so bad, and what can happen at worst I have the bios recovery. Now I've learned.

The board shut down after max 1 sec, no beep nothing, and try to boot again. The fans starts but they don't have enough time to get to there full speed before it shut down.

[Falkentyne]

Yes, you have to shut down the board with the PSU switch while holding the case power button before it shuts down itself. One second is rather fast...
Should be a way to short the primary bios, though. Those pins are really small...probably could use a mini screwdriver.

[TurboDiv]

Hooked up my new OCZ monster and its been awesome so far. No more squeel when i play a 3D game. Its dead silent compared to my old one. Board booted up perfectly fine even after i replaced the PSU which is awesome. VOltages have been better, 3.3v was going up to 3.44 under load before, now its like 3.32 and its nor moving much actually even under load. So far so good !