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    Heat.. too much of it. GTX580 SLI Build

    Ok,

    This may/may not sit in the right forum, but overall I'm moving to water to help remdiate this as I'm thinking about exhausting the heat side out the window, or something.

    Currently I'm sitting on the following build:

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    Now the problem I have is just that the pure amount of heat coming out of the GTX580 SLI setup is starting to become and issue with the entire room. I am simply just raising the temp of my room by around 10F, which in Houston is starting to become a problem.

    I was hoping to get some opinons on how people are removing the heat from their room via ducting or some other method that is easy to manage.

    Thoughts/Flames/Opinions, let me know.
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    Watercooling won't decrease your heatload, just so you're aware. The chips are still going to generate (approximately) the same amount of heat...you could do a long tubing run to a window and back or something, but you'd have to clean that ALL The time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silvrhand View Post
    Thoughts/Flames/Opinions, let me know.
    Thoughts: can we see a picture of your system as it is right now... maybe just simple wire management can fix it.

    Flames: no no adding fire will only make things hotter!

    Opinions: unless u want to spend the 400 required to watercool your gpu's.
    lets see if we can fix your issue by just cleaning stuff up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    Thoughts: can we see a picture of your system as it is right now... maybe just simple wire management can fix it.

    Flames: no no adding fire will only make things hotter!

    Opinions: unless u want to spend the 400 required to watercool your gpu's.
    lets see if we can fix your issue by just cleaning stuff up.
    The cards are fine, it's just they are producing so much heat that gets exhausted into my room, which unfortunately during heavy gaming session will raise the temp in my room 10F and higher if I shut the door it gets untolerable and I have a feeling will only get worse with the upcoming summer months in Houston, TX.

    I was thinking about setting up the dangerDen external 3x 360 case, and then creating a vent on the exhaust side to go out the window and pipe the heat outside. I was wondering if anyone else had this issue previously it was semi controllable, but not it seems I might have to setup a seperate AC in my room to run.
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    Short of installing AC, there's nothing much that you can do. I'm seriously considering getting it installed in my room, my 3-way 570 is keeping my room @ 27C and it's only 15C outside. I shudder at the thought of what's going to happen during the summer...
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    Quote Originally Posted by m0r7if3r View Post
    Watercooling won't decrease your heatload, just so you're aware. The chips are still going to generate (approximately) the same amount of heat...you could do a long tubing run to a window and back or something, but you'd have to clean that ALL The time.
    Yah that's what I was thinking about with the following case:

    http://www.dangerden.com/store/exter...pump-case.html

    It would allow me to reduce my overall case footprint as well and get back into something else that isn't so pricey.. Ugh.. I love my surround gaming setup but if I can't fix the heat issues I might have to give it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mackintosh View Post
    Short of installing AC, there's nothing much that you can do. I'm seriously considering getting it installed in my room, my 3-way 570 is keeping my room @ 27C and it's only 15C outside. I shudder at the thought of what's going to happen during the summer...
    Yah.. I was hoping to avoid that but it might be the best option considering the cost of running the AC for the entire second floor @70-72 to keep my room comfortable at night.

    /sigh
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    I'm really glad that someone started a thread like this. My computer room is on the 3rd floor of my home, I have central air and vaulted ceilings. Not a great combo. My main PC just destroys my computer room. I've tried both ceiling and floor fans but nothing does the trick. I'd get an AC but I don't have the room to run that on the circuit with everything else. I've been looking into running one or two 20A dedicated circuits to the computer room.

    There's a guest room that shares a hollow wall with my computer room and I'm now seriously tempted to buy one of those boxes linked above and just punch a hole through the wall to route some tubing. It would be cheaper than running Romex through my house. We'll see.

    Keep chiming in with ideas!
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    well now u guys see why futon is set up serial.. and the rear exhaust is right next to a 20inch box fan out the window

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    It's just ridiculous that we are having to deal with cooling issues inside a room with a single PC these days. I tried to talk to the wife about a portable AC, and she gave me a portable butt chewing lol... I tried to explain spending $350 on a portable 12,000 BTU cooler would be cheaper than going water cooling and piping it out the window.. She just didn't want to hear it today lol.
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    i used to be a crunching monster.

    Until... i realized.. the power draw from 8 systems was killing my power bill. And i mean majorly majorly spiking it.

    Then i ran into a problem during a hot summer.

    90F+ outside + 8 computers inside a room = big trouble.

    So i moved all my crunching machines down to my study where i had very little windows bringing in heat, and connected an AC to that room.

    Then i fry'd / destroyed my house's breaker box...

    LOL... short to say, i had to get a new breaker installed, a special 50amp line going to that room from the breaker.

    Irony... i havent crunched since i repaired all that... yet now i could probably handle it.

    But... i was honestly getting tired of paying what was close to a luxury car monthly payments, on my house's electricity bill.

    if i recall carefully... i went though 3000 KWhr's each month when i did that... So each bill would be around 6000KWhr...


    But dont get me wrong.. crunching was fun.. and id probably like to do it again.. except im super comeptitive.. and ... well... so cali DWP is a bityach when it comes to over usages.
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    What is the ambient in your room, out of curiosity?
    I live in your neck of the woods and I would definitely recommend H20 cooling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D749 View Post
    I'm really glad that someone started a thread like this. My computer room is on the 3rd floor of my home, I have central air and vaulted ceilings. Not a great combo. My main PC just destroys my computer room. I've tried both ceiling and floor fans but nothing does the trick. I'd get an AC but I don't have the room to run that on the circuit with everything else. I've been looking into running one or two 20A dedicated circuits to the computer room.

    There's a guest room that shares a hollow wall with my computer room and I'm now seriously tempted to buy one of those boxes linked above and just punch a hole through the wall to route some tubing. It would be cheaper than running Romex through my house. We'll see.

    Keep chiming in with ideas!
    The question I have though is if I punch a hole through the wall and vent the hot air out, I'll also vent my AC out as well. There really isn't a good solution other then piping air into my PC and then back outside. Which when it hits 100F and 90% humidity isn't going to be a great option..
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    Quote Originally Posted by theseeker View Post
    What is the ambient in your room, out of curiosity?
    I live in your neck of the woods and I would definitely recommend H20 cooling.
    Houston, TX.. not the best place for ambient cooling, and on the second floor so the ideas of running a geothermal setup in the ground for cooling and pumping all the water back up is painful.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    i used to be a crunching monster.

    Until... i realized.. the power draw from 8 systems was killing my power bill. And i mean majorly majorly spiking it.

    Then i ran into a problem during a hot summer.

    90F+ outside + 8 computers inside a room = big trouble.

    So i moved all my crunching machines down to my study where i had very little windows bringing in heat, and connected an AC to that room.

    Then i fry'd / destroyed my house's breaker box...

    LOL... short to say, i had to get a new breaker installed, a special 50amp line going to that room from the breaker.

    Irony... i havent crunched since i repaired all that... yet now i could probably handle it.

    But... i was honestly getting tired of paying what was close to a luxury car monthly payments, on my house's electricity bill.

    if i recall carefully... i went though 3000 KWhr's each month when i did that... So each bill would be around 6000KWhr...


    But dont get me wrong.. crunching was fun.. and id probably like to do it again.. except im super comeptitive.. and ... well... so cali DWP is a bityach when it comes to over usages.
    Yah i need to get power usage under control, I recently dropped all my mini PC's and collapsed down to two Dell T310's using vmware at home. I got them for $400 each and upgraded to 16GB of ram. It's nice to have 32GB vmware cluster at home! I also then bought a HP Microserver to add as my NFS server, so far it's good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    i used to be a crunching monster.

    Until... i realized.. the power draw from 8 systems was killing my power bill. And i mean majorly majorly spiking it.

    Then i ran into a problem during a hot summer.

    90F+ outside + 8 computers inside a room = big trouble.

    So i moved all my crunching machines down to my study where i had very little windows bringing in heat, and connected an AC to that room.

    Then i fry'd / destroyed my house's breaker box...

    LOL... short to say, i had to get a new breaker installed, a special 50amp line going to that room from the breaker.

    Irony... i havent crunched since i repaired all that... yet now i could probably handle it.

    But... i was honestly getting tired of paying what was close to a luxury car monthly payments, on my house's electricity bill.

    if i recall carefully... i went though 3000 KWhr's each month when i did that... So each bill would be around 6000KWhr...


    But dont get me wrong.. crunching was fun.. and id probably like to do it again.. except im super comeptitive.. and ... well... so cali DWP is a bityach when it comes to over usages.
    Try a 350 gallon salt water/reef aquarium with a chiller!

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    I've had thoughts of ducting the heat from the rad out the window. Seems pretty simple but probably ugly.

    Create some type of shroud for the exhaust side of the rad and use a length of dryer ducting to get to a window. Fit a board to the window with one of those dryer duct ports on it. You might need to install a fan inline to help pull/push the heat outside.

    It would be ugly but you'd only have to have it installed a few months out of the year.

    Optionally, running tubing to the window and hanging the rad there could work. Same idea for the most part. Only problem I see is exhausting your AC's room air out the window. But at least you don't have any permanent holes in your wall.
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    but u see the solution u guys are bringing up is if you can control your ambients... lol..

    When its a super hot day, the only thing thats gonna save u is an AC.

    Or you wont be able to stay in that room for very long.

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    Keep your PC's in a different room. That is what I do. I just run 15 foot USB/video cables to my desk. That way my room is whisper quiet and having the CPU run full load 24/7 doesn't increase the room temperature. Although honestly I know doing this isn't always a possibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    but u see the solution u guys are bringing up is if you can control your ambients... lol..

    When its a super hot day, the only thing thats gonna save u is an AC.

    Or you wont be able to stay in that room for very long.
    The only reason he can't control his ambients now is because of his computers heat output. Once you duct it outside it's all good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theseeker View Post
    These kind of external rad boxes really need power supply cutouts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CedricFP View Post
    These kind of external rad boxes really need power supply cutouts.
    And to be about 1/3 of their current price!!!.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideroxylon View Post
    The only reason he can't control his ambients now is because of his computers heat output. Once you duct it outside it's all good.
    no because at the same time he will be venting out cold air.

    so his AC is going to be on a lot of time anyhow because as he vents out cold air, he needs to introduce new hot air, and he's back at one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NaeKuh View Post
    no because at the same time he will be venting out cold air.

    so his AC is going to be on a lot of time anyhow because as he vents out cold air, he needs to introduce new hot air, and he's back at one.
    I think it's better to remove any heat to begin with so his ac doesn't have to fight it in the first place.
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