Dead 570's (Have you killed yours?)

[sin0822]

yea this is very scary!!! lol, with the stock cooler they even cooler down the phases but i guess not well enough. You can't add phases either... hopefully the SC cards will have more beefy VRs this is just scary as heck.

Nemisis, yes same cooling but the GTX 580 has 33% more phases lol 6 instead of 4 much better because it can spread the load over more phases.

[mikecdm]

Well, my 570's will live to bench another day. Made it through the day with no casualties.

[bassplayer]

SC cards? Like EVGA SC? Because that's what mine was.

[The Nemesis]

yea this is very scary!!! lol, with the stock cooler they even cooler down the phases but i guess not well enough. You can't add phases either... hopefully the SC cards will have more beefy VRs this is just scary as heck.

Nemisis, yes same cooling but the GTX 580 has 33% more phases lol 6 instead of 4 much better because it can spread the load over more phases.

I'm staying at 1.150v can get much above 925-2200 but it will have to do

[Lsdmeasap]

SC cards? Like EVGA SC? Because that's what mine was.

SuperClocked? That was what mine was too, this one to be exact
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-595-_-Product

I installed it, ran two benchmarks (Only one completed) and it died. I did not make any voltage or clock changes at all, strictly out of the box run after installing drivers, just to make a baseline comparison to my 5870 so I could see how it stacked up.

Sounds like there is something seriously wrong with this lineup or model, Newegg didn't even ask me more than one question about the card and granted the RMA quickly, so I assume there has been plenty of RMA's already.

I only mentioned not removing the fan/heatsink assembly in regards to Bassplayer's images, meaning I didn't look to see if that was why this one died or not.

It was not pushed at all, unless you consider a stock Vantage run pushing it. Cards dying this easily is not normal, something has to be wrong with the design.

[mikecdm]

Some of these just have to be faulty cards. I have a vanilla evga model and it works fine. I ran 1.2v for a couple of hours today on both cards and both ran well. Granted it was very cold and I was able to run them at 1ghz, but normally I can only get around 970 core with the same amount of voltage. The gigabyte that I've had for around a month is only used to run benches with and it has yet to give me problems other than the time I flashed it with a bad bios.

[Lsdmeasap]

I agree, could be faulty cards, but it does look very suspect when a few of us have similar deaths on the same model of card - and happen to run into each other to mention it too.

[cowie]

cowie, i turned off software OCP and ran furmark and was able to make the card pull 100 more watts than with OCP enabled, my card did not die. i have two Gigabyte GTX 570 which has the same reference design as ASUS and i am guessing EVGA cards. I think nvidia skimped heavily on the VRM with the GTX 570. The GTX 580 has 6 phases the GTX 570 has 4 phases for GPU both cards have 2 extra phases for the memory. 33% reduction in ouput from the phases on a card with 5-10% less TDP is skimping in my book. My card isn't dead though, I am thinking about doing some of those mods, at least the voltage read point and new BIOS.

Well for 150usd less then the 580- they have to skimp somewhere.
just like the ref 275 they were week in the knees,285's would go nice 275's would not take much voltage at all.
Just 1 look at the 570 should have giving you a warning.
I just cant see how this just started to happen and i dont see it wide spread.
(Come on the highly modded card is hurting you guys case)

Like i said i burnt phases on two 460 hawks both at 1.29v no other mods were those card built bad? not at all it was all me.
plz dont pass blame on the card being bad try to be a man,unless you took it out of the box and it blowed up all by itself...that happens too.
I'll be ringing my two 570 with just 1.21v and stock hs and COLD AIR i bet i dont burn a phase.....well i hope not.

+i just found over six my 6950 just die threads around the net(not to start with amd but for ref.)

[nolonger]

Well for 150usd less then the 580- they have to skimp somewhere.
just like the ref 275 they were week in the knees,285's would go nice 275's would not take much voltage at all.
Just 1 look at the 570 should have giving you a warning.
I just cant see how this just started to happen and i dont see it wide spread.
(Come on the highly modded card is hurting you guys case)

Like i said i burnt phases on two 460 hawks both at 1.29v no other mods were those card built bad? not at all it was all me.
plz dont pass blame on the card being bad try to be a man,unless you took it out of the box and it blowed up all by itself...that happens too.
I'll be ringing my two 570 with just 1.21v and stock hs and COLD AIR i bet i dont burn a phase.....well i hope not.

+i just found over six my 6950 just die threads around the net(not to start with amd but for ref.)

The thing is, for example, Mikecdm is able to run 1.2v all day on his vanilla, yet lsdmeasap had his card die on stock volts after 2 Vantage Runs. Bassplayer was running the same 1.2V and the card died.

There is obviously a problem in the EVGA SC cards.

[miahallen]

Mine was a stock ENGTX570 from Asus...this is not isolated to eVGA cards

[sin0822]

oh damn you guys had SC cards, yea i meant superclocked, mine are just refernce stock cards. I am guessing the custom cards from each manufacturer might have more beefed up VRMs. Hopefully, idk i guess tehy did skimp for 150 less. Ed that really sucks about your card just dieing out of the box.

[bassplayer]

Cowie, I'm not saying this is a problem everyone will incur. As this is XS, many people will have modded cards like me. I'm just trying to gather enough information to see exactly why it died so I can properly warn people. Unfortunately I don't think the 570 is going to be a good card to freeze unless you throw a zombie card on it for the extra phases.

[sin0822]

yea look slike its only the cards that are shipped with differnet phase layouts that will be any good for OCing. This is a crappy crappy problem. In this day and age when mobo companies are throwing on phases like there is no tomorrow you woudl think GPUs woudl be the same. Look like you need more than 4 phases to OC a 220watt TDP GPU, but I think most people know that our CPUs that pull under 300watts have a minimum of 8 phases on lower end mobos, a GPU should have close to the same VR, but the truth is there is limited PCB realestate so the companies have to use top end digital VRMs, but when you are lacking in actual phases count there is a huge problem. IDk who to blame for this refernce design as you can't blame asus, gigabyte, msi, and evga as Nvidia designed this crap. I bet if they only took out one phase this wouldn't have happened. I bet shamino woudl have the proper components to add a phase or two on there, i have seen his GPUs from CES they were modded to the extreme.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention bassplayer! Looks like Nvidia tried to reduce their RMAs by disabling the ability to run furmark and occt, i guess this is why, they wanted to cheap out.

[cowie]

I think you guys are on a witch hunt tbh.

you guys sure you did not try ab x for more then 1.21.?

I know this is XS so if you guys get some real info and put something together i'm willing to try to duplicate your issues to futher you cause,not just a weak componet card.
right now i'm still not yelling the sky is falling down.i could have told you the first time i seen a 570 that they would be weak in the knees you guys know that.
As of now 1.21v alone is not enough to kill mine..i will not disable ocp thuo... to get you guys on track it has nothing to do with evga sc bios my vanillas run them atm,.I also thuoght that both standerd and sc cards were the same hardware wise.
I willing to help if its a 79gt like issue but i dont think so its just a weak board that runs okish

[bassplayer]

Yeah, mine was at 1.212V for sure.

I'm just hoping Pizza can fix it I want a zombie card!

[cowie]

I hope he can get you up and running again i hate to see people with dead vga's for whatever reason.
I even have a dead 480 if you need its ass end to help....i killed the card with kinks(?) ovp ocp mods that every body else did ok with but me.

[Lsdmeasap]

Ya mine was directly out of the box as well, less than 10 minutes running. I did not make any voltage or clock changes, nor did I install any software other than standard forceware drivers.

Passed one P Vantage run, then died on an attempt to start running a 3DM 11 benchmark. Not sure if there was any odd noises or pops or anything like that, I was leaving the room to get some tea and I heard the machine abruptly shut down and that was the end of it.

[sin0822]

ed your story scares the crap outta me, did you ever get to the bottom of it?

[NoGuru]

I run at 1.15 for my benchmarks and still alive and kickin but I think I will draw the line there. I do have to warm my card up though, it will start Vantage then stop, do it again and get a little further
then stop, then restart Vantage again and it will run all the way through. I dunno.

[sin0822]

hmm when i benched at 1.1v i did all the benches in a row but my entire card(s) were cold the whole way through.

[Lsdmeasap]

ed your story scares the crap outta me, did you ever get to the bottom of it?

No, I sent it back the very next day for RMA. I didn't want to open it up or anything like that since I was sending it back to Newegg for RMA.

I couldn't risk them denying a RMA for it because I did not pay for the card, and I needed it back in a timely manner for forum wars, so I didn't mess around with it at all.

[CHiLLiN1369]

i run my 570 SC most of the time with 1.175 or air conditioning air cooled. no problems "YET"

[Lsdmeasap]

I see one more mentioned Blow Up in the Newegg reviews, by "Slappi"

If this link fails for anyone, select the three eggs to drill down to his comments
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

[NoGuru]

Any body mention the problem to EVGA yet?

[bassplayer]

Guru, we've seen the issue with cards other than EVGA as well. In fact, we had a report today over at OCN of an MSI TFII that blew at 1.1V with OCP!