AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[Sn0wm@n]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=263520 ???? cat 10.12 no good ????

[Iconyu]

either it is tdp or for bios or both.(might be tdp turn on in driver also)
amd seems to add a updated version of power tune to the new cards, so who knows if they even in current drivers have such activated at all.

3 days...

Maybe we should just ask the guy posting these results to show us the manual.

[Heinz68]

I have a life thank you very much. And so far neither you or other trolls disputed fact that you don't compare A. 2xGPU to B. 1xGPU different product segments and claim A is fastest of AB segment. All you and other trolls did was go from my main point and introduce irrelevant stuff like

I never compared SLI to Crossfire its the same thing and it is not the issue here.
Hey i never said it is not fastest graphic card hell ya its fastest card but from different segment . "Most users" agree single GPU card is alot less of a hassle. And lets not start pulling random % out of our asses.
You need to read some reviews your self , they explain how one Graphic Card differs from another. Clearly not everyone is blind and know about MGPU issues and SGPU advantages.
So you can make a distinction between two separate cards but not one with two or one GPU Single GPU card has as much advantage as single graphics card with MGPU over two separate ones.

So now we went from "Graphic Card" discussions to company strategies speaking of witch "AMD promotes Cayman as the new R300 " here is your reason for AMD bashing. Why would you be positive and praise them for being so conservative.

Of course you can compare the cards, most review do without any special segment, maybe Google can help. The single most important reason to use 2 GPU is to have fastest Graphic Card.

Yes there is a HUGE advantage to have 2 GPU on one card instead having to buy two cards. Here are just few, less power consumption, less heat, some mobos can't run 2 cards, even on my not exactly cheap mobo I would have to run them site by site, again more heat. The most important is the cost since the dual GPU cards cost less than 2 cards.

The bottom line is, selective post replying always goes on with never ending arguments. Maybe you should go read one more time here.
Here is your reply to my post, there sure was not need for it
My post was about "why all the negatives, gloom and doom" about AMD in this thread.
I only made that post after so many repeating post about AMD sinking ship and about the big trouble AMD is in because of Cayman.
Instead of replying to all the negative post and sometime out right troolls I responded with a single post trying to point out few positives not exclusively talking about HD 5970. Is that so bad in AMD thread? Do you really thing it is trolling? Do you know what trolling is?

You decided to ignore all and make selective reply going on with even more negatives. I can safely bet that most people using the HD 5970 wont agree with you, but you who doesn't have any knows better.

The ONLY way to have the most powerful graphic and gaming solution is either with dual card or multi card SLI or Crossfire, for me single card is better way.
I don't want to go on about this any more lets just say we disagree but next time please read and don't make selective personal attack post, there sure was not need for it. My last post on the subject. You want to talk more take it PM.

[LordEC911]

either it is tdp or for bios or both.(might be tdp turn on in driver also)
amd seems to add a updated version of power tune to the new cards, so who knows if they even in current drivers have such activated at all.

3 days...

Increases the max voltage voltage by ~20%, no cold bug, etc.
Max board power is 250w without hardmodding which seems like a few have already done.

[flopper]

Increases the max voltage voltage by ~20%, no cold bug, etc.
Max board power is 250w without hardmodding which seems like a few have already done.

Tesselation is fixed.
within 5% of 5970.
question is, are that also in games, if so, then it trade blows with 580.
if not, well...it dosnt look good for amd.
perception rules.

or the guy is hired by Nvidia to do dmg to amd.
happens.

[Johnny87au]

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=263520 ???? cat 10.12 no good ????

Seems better then the previous drivers, benchmarks did improve by a bit!!

Maybe we should just ask the guy posting these results to show us the manual.

We should just wait for the release to see the real deal instead of hearing so much negative feedback..

[Heinz68]

I noticed some people believe Cayman is going to really bad in synthetics benchmark but much better in games.

The new 3DMARK11 is probably going to be used most often.
Here is the "Ducati750ss" HD 6970 3DMARK11 Extreme 1920x1080 bench "score X1776 points" on AMD platform probably not with the latest driver.

On Xbit benchmarks the GTX 580 "scored 1947 points"

That makes the HD 6970 -8.78% slower than GTX 580 in this synthetic bench.

Maybe better driver and same platform can at least narrow that difference, anyway the best is to wait for the real reviews from unbiased reviewers, coming soon.

[Heinz68]

we should just wait for the release to see the real deal instead of hearing so much negative feedback..

+11

[96redformula]

I noticed some people believe Cayman is going to really bad in synthetics benchmark but much better in games.

The new 3DMARK11 is probably going to used most often.
Here is the "Ducati750ss" HD 6970 3DMARK11 Extreme 1920x1200 bench "score X1776 points" on AMD platform probably not with the latest driver.

On Xbit benchmarks the GTX 580 "scored 1947 points"

That makes the HD 6970 -8.78% slower than GTX 580 in this synthetic bench.

Maybe better driver and same platform can at least narrow that difference, anyway the best is to wait for the real reviews from unbiased reviewers, coming soon.

Um...Your comparing
1920x1200 6900 score
to
1920x1080 GTX580 score

The difference is about 10% more pixels for 1920x1200.

[ColonelCain]

Two suggestions:

Stop with the tags before you dig a hole.

Stop the personal insults.

Those who this post was referenced to, might want to take heed. Admins already cleared out a bunch of useless tags this week for this thread.
Admins can also see who added the tags.
And the personal insults is a vacation-able offense if I'm not mistaken.

Please keep it civil guys.

[Hicksetto]

Fully supported GPU-z SS from @Ducati750ss:

http://www.abload.de/img/gpu-zneuvxuk.jpg

[Kristers Bensin]

Um...Your comparing
1920x1200 6900 score
to
1920x1080 GTX580 score

The difference is about 10% more pixels for 1920x1200.

Maybe he just wrote it down wrong, cause of what i know entry, performance and extreme tests are predefined

[96redformula]

Fully supported GPU-z SS from @Ducati750ss:

HD6970 or HD6950?

Secondly, is the switch on the card on or off?

[nascasho]

Yup, that screenshot did me in, I've lost all hope.

[Borden]

http://bbs.expreview.com/thread-38497-1-1.html

[Heinz68]

Um...Your comparing
1920x1200 6900 score
to
1920x1080 GTX580 score

The difference is about 10% more pixels for 1920x1200.

Sorry and thanks, it was my typing error, ducati used the same 1920x1980 resolution

I just corrected it.

[bill_d]

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...-Z_v0.4.9.html
where does it say gpu-z 0.4.9 surports 6970

[Hicksetto]

HD6970 or HD6950?

Secondly, is the switch on the card on or off?

HD6970... No clues about the switch yet... If you know German, you can ask him @:

http://translate.google.com/translat...768017-30.html

[nascasho]

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...-Z_v0.4.9.html
where does it say gpu-z 0.4.9 surports 6970

Here:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=136218

And I asked him about the flick the switch, he responded with:


Translated
As long as I do not know what is, I press the not .. LOL
Can make the subsequent owners like [smiley here]

No clue wtf the last part means, but he's being a little... wimp not flicking it.

[Hicksetto]

http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads...-Z_v0.4.9.html
where does it say gpu-z 0.4.9 surports 6970

Test build. Here you go:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=136218

[bill_d]

Here:

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?t=136218

ok thanks i looked but didn't find it

[Tha Last Meal]

WT...

[Hicksetto]

Secondly, is the switch on the card on or off?

@Ducati750ss said:

"The switch also changes nothing in the Performance."

[96redformula]

He just stated:

"The switch also changes nothing in the Performance.Keine idea for what that is."

[nascasho]

ok thanks i looked but didn't find it

He just didn't put it in the release notes.