AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[96redformula]

What seems to be really scary is that he posts that the HD6970 is consuming more power than GTX480.....

[zerazax]

http://bbs.expreview.com/thread-38497-1-1.html

hmm

35% faster in Metro2033 puts it above GTX 580 according to Anandtech, and 44% faster in Stalker COP puts it around if not above GTX 580 as well. Guru3D seems to corroborate those #'s.

For that matter, AvP is faster according to techpowerup. For Lost Planet 2, according to Tom's, 6970 is at 5970 levels, though that one's so heavily Nvidia favored nothing non-Nvidia is close

Like I said, pay attention to the game benchmarks more than what 3dMark is spewing out

[96redformula]

hmm

35% faster in Metro2033 puts it above GTX 580 according to Anandtech, and 44% faster in Stalker COP puts it around if not above GTX 580 as well. Guru3D seems to corroborate those #'s.

For that matter, AvP is faster according to techpowerup. For Lost Planet 2, according to Tom's, 6970 is at 5970 levels, though that one's so heavily Nvidia favored nothing non-Nvidia is close

Like I said, pay attention to the game benchmarks more than what 3dMark is spewing out

I read the graph as in xx% better at tesselation, not in framerates or gameplay, but I could have just misinterpreted it.

[Tha Last Meal]

What seems to be really scary is that he posts that the HD6870 is consuming more power than GTX480.....

You mean HD 6970

but this is bad man , I have a bad feeling about this card HD 6970

[WintersSC]

hmm

35% faster in Metro2033 puts it above GTX 580 according to Anandtech, and 44% faster in Stalker COP puts it around if not above GTX 580 as well. Guru3D seems to corroborate those #'s.

For that matter, AvP is faster according to techpowerup. For Lost Planet 2, according to Tom's, 6970 is at 5970 levels, though that one's so heavily Nvidia favored nothing non-Nvidia is close

Like I said, pay attention to the game benchmarks more than what 3dMark is spewing out

Look at the botom, seems pheik...

[easyrider]

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[zerazax]

I read the graph as in xx% better at tesselation, not in framerates or gameplay, but I could have just misinterpreted it.

That's what I thought too, but look at the graph.... tessellation rate is consistently > 1.5x, usually over 2x, so why would they do that tessellation graph then show tessellation in games not doing so?

And it's neck to neck with the 5970 in tessellation in Unigine so the 69% performance sounds about right

[flopper]

Han solo " I got a bad feeling" strange, it feels I never see her again.
Trust him.
Its all in the force.

mixed bag, likely bad optimized drivers as far.
maybe crossfire will suck for a year then.

[zerazax]

What seems to be really scary is that he posts that the HD6870 is consuming more power than GTX480.....

6970 is supposedly rated at 190 typical / 250 max, so in some situations, I wouldn't be surprised if it got close to the 480 - but I bet overall average is a different story, much less firemark

Look at the botom, seems pheik...

He's done that to every slide /shrug

[ilkkahy]

Good thing no one uses only 3dMark to review

Edit: there are some seriously ridiculous people here.. first some ridiculous expectations, then a few 3dMark scores and its doom and gloom - scores I already explained about synthetics - and scores from a guy who refuses to show a comparison with the 480 or even a GPU load screenshot /sigh

I think you posted good stuff so i wanted to remind you that these factors dont go unnoticed by everyone. Most people that agree with you just dont have reason to write about it here.

I think expectations to Cayman from some people are just dumb. Why would amd all the sudden throw that well working "sweet spot" -strategy to trash bin? To please five enthusiastic gamers who wants amd to make huge cost-inefficient chip that would rape GTX580?

My guess about that "turbo-boost" button is that its dual-bios switch. In a way it can works as turbo-boost if other of the bioses has been updated to more aggressive clocks. This way one could update "reserved slot bios" with less risk and switch to primary bios if something goes wrong. I think there motherboards that has this feature? But this is just a wild guess as i dont really know anything about bios-stuff

[zerazax]

I think you posted good stuff so i wanted to remind you that these factors dont go unnoticed by everyone. Most people that agree with you just dont have reason to write about it here.

I think expectations to Cayman from some people are just dumb. Why would amd all the sudden throw that well working "sweet spot" -strategy to trash bin? To please five enthusiastic gamers who wants amd to make huge cost-inefficient chip that would rape GTX580?

My guess about that "turbo-boost" button is that its dual-bios switch. In a way it can works as turbo-boost if other of the bioses has been updated to more aggressive clocks. This way one could update "reserved slot bios" with less risk and switch to primary bios if something goes wrong. I think there motherboards that has this feature? But this is just a wild guess as i dont really know anything about bios-stuff

Thanks. Love the avatar too

It's apparently a dual BIOS switch - one which raises max voltage and is meant to avoid the cold bug. Interesting that they decided to put it in a reference card

[Hicksetto]

HD6970 RE5 Benchmark posted!

8xAA 1920x1080, all max 16xAF

http://www.abload.de/img/6970re5dban.jpg

[WintersSC]

He's done that to every slide /shrug

Ouch

FFS hicksetto, just for 1 second xDDD

[bill_d]

Thanks. Love the avatar too

It's apparently a dual BIOS switch - one which raises max voltage and is meant to avoid the cold bug. Interesting that they decided to put it in a reference card

most waterblocks are for the reference card to start anyway

[96redformula]

HD6970 RE5 Benchmark posted!

8xAA 1920x1080, all max 16xAF

http://www.abload.de/img/6970re5dban.jpg

Um is that good, bad....RE5 bench people translate please .

[WintersSC]

Um is that good, bad....RE5 bench people translate please .

Didnt say anything XD

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/369...rd/index5.html

[zerazax]

Bad.

*cough* 8xAA 16xAF *cough*

[zerazax]

What seems to be really scary is that he posts that the HD6970 is consuming more power than GTX480.....

Someone just mentioned the 480 in his review was undervolted to 0.963V

[kite7]

5870 Crossfire 8xAA and 16xAF scores 109FPS on RE5 Fixed benchmark

GTX 580 8xAA and 16xAF scores 117FPS on RE5 Fixed benchmark

According to this http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=...0&postcount=19

Not too shabby at all

[WintersSC]

*cough* 8xAA 16xAF *cough*

GTX 580 bench didnt use filters or? I dont see that condition in the screen

5870 Crossfire 8xAA and 16xAF scores 109FPS on RE5 Fixed benchmark

GTX 580 8xAA and 16xAF scores 117FPS on RE5 Fixed benchmark

According to this http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=...0&postcount=19

Not too shabby at all

My bad, sorry!

[96redformula]

@Ducati750

Depends. Resident Evil hab ich jetzt mit der gtx480 gebencht und komme auf 101FPS, die 6970 hat 109FPS. Resident Evil, I just benched with the GTX480 and come to 101FPS, which has 109FPS 6970.
Bei meinem F1 2010 Bench ist die 6970 21% schneller als gtx480. On my bench, the 6970 F1 2010 21% faster than GTX480.
Bei 3DMark11 Extreme ist die 6970 auch schneller. In 3DMark11 the 6970 Extreme is faster.

[kite7]

GTX 580 bench didnt use filters or? I dont see that condition in the screen

I'm sure they didn't enable AA or AF for that RE5 bench because they did a separate test in their review labeled "High Quality AA and AF"

[WintersSC]

I'm sure they didn't enable AA or AF for that RE5 bench because they did a separate test in their review labeled "High Quality AA and AF"

okey! Im new in this world xD

[zerazax]

@Ducati750

See what I told you guys? so much doom and gloom.. and 6970 is awfully close to the 580

Also, for reference, the Computemark score of 454 sounds bad compared to the 580

http://h-5.abload.de/img/6970computemarkxmc9.jpg

But look at what the 5870 scores:

http://www.geeks3d.com/20100606/gpu-...80-vs-hd-5870/

238!

The 6970 scored 90.7% higher than the 5870 in the same compute bench!

[WintersSC]

Oh god, this seems to be good, despite the 10.11 drivers...