AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

**zerazax** · 12-06-2010, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by eric66

what do you mean by they ? if 6950 is also faster than 580 that pretty much means beginning of new era in gpu industry

Can't even imagine what Antilles would do

**FischOderAal** · 12-06-2010, 03:16 AM

Originally Posted by eric66

what do you mean by they ? if 6950 is also faster than 580 that pretty much means beginning of new era in gpu industry

You shouldn't read so much into it. Maybe they meant GTX 580 as a chip, meaning HD 6970 is faster than GTX 580 and HD 6950 is faster than GTX 6950. But who knows?

**kam03** · 12-06-2010, 03:29 AM

Glad i didn't jump the gun on 580.

**Seu** · 12-06-2010, 03:37 AM

AMD(ATI ! :p ) have make an R300 like?

**thebanik** · 12-06-2010, 03:52 AM

Originally Posted by eric66

what do you mean by they ? if 6950 is also faster than 580 that pretty much means beginning of new era in gpu industry

I just jizzed in my pants by the thought of this happening a reality,

**~CS~** · 12-06-2010, 05:27 AM

In the highly unlikely scenario of 6970 being 30-40% faster then gtx 580,I will likely pick one up at launch.Not holding my breath for it,but it would be a pleasant surprise.

**Iconyu** · 12-06-2010, 05:34 AM

So you guys think that AMD were planning to make a small GPU on 32nm and they managed to squeeze it onto the 40nm process, but nvidia's next card was another large one so all they could do was tweak? If so, I imagine both sides knew exactly what was coming, and we're only surprised because we thought AMD would be forced to cut Cayman back. But in reality the scale between 40 and 32 isn't that incredible, so a small to medium 32nm chip would translate reasonable well to a large 40nm chip on a now mature process right?

I know they'd have to rework the entire thing but if you know the other team is totally screwed for an entire year because they can't make anything larger, but you've still got room and a year to convert, I think it's possible.

**generics_user** · 12-06-2010, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by s1nykuL

Fair enough, I accept that price can be indicative of performance. The point I am trying to make is that the prices charged by an online store known for price gouging on new, hard to obtain GPU products shouldn't be taken as absolute indication of the performance of such GPU's. It is an indication of greed rather than performance.

For instance OC prices for an Asus 580 are approx £50 more than the same product from Scan. Does this mean that an Asus 580 purchased from OC is faster than the same Asus 580 purchased from Scan?

AMD always had more competitive prices in the last 3 years, if it's priced higher than 580 from the start it has to offer a higher performance

**uncle fester** · 12-06-2010, 06:12 AM

Originally Posted by eric66

what do you mean by they ? if 6950 is also faster than 580 that pretty much means beginning of new era in gpu industry

Ok maybe i used the wrong word there i was talking about the 6970, and my info says it is only marginally faster than 580, they did not divulge in what tests / games or anything, could very well be the case that some tests and games 580 is faster and in other 6970 is faster, NDA sucks and AMD are very strict so i understand the vagueness of what i was told. I am not saying the 6970 will kill the 580 i don't believe anything until i use it but initial source is some what credible.

**JohnMike** · 12-06-2010, 06:48 AM

Originally Posted by uncle fester

Ok maybe i used the wrong word there i was talking about the 6970, and my info says it is only marginally faster than 580, they did not divulge in what tests / games or anything, could very well be the case that some tests and games 580 is faster and in other 6970 is faster, NDA sucks and AMD are very strict so i understand the vagueness of what i was told. I am not saying the 6970 will kill the 580 i don't believe anything until i use it but initial source is some what credible.

I dont know about performance... But minutes ago i received information about 6970 price and it's going to be lower then today's 580 GTX.
This week there will be plenty of 6950/70 on stores but still under NDA until december 15th.

**hurrdurr** · 12-06-2010, 06:56 AM

So we'll be able to buy the cards but unable to read reviews for a week? :O

**zalbard** · 12-06-2010, 07:04 AM

Originally Posted by JohnMike

This week there will be plenty of 6950/70 on stores but still under NDA until december 15th.

Hm, I thought it was December, 13th...

Originally Posted by hurrdurr

So we'll be able to buy the cards but unable to read reviews for a week? :O

No, they will not be up for sale. They are just creating a stock to have enough cards available to satisfy the demand on the day when NDA expires.

**JohnMike** · 12-06-2010, 07:07 AM

Originally Posted by hurrdurr

So we'll be able to buy the cards but unable to read reviews for a week? :O

My source says on stores this week but can't sell because NDA ends on december 15th.

GTX 570 tomorrow launch can change everything, i don't know...

I know that this weekend i will have a 6970 sample to test.. That is certain

**s1nykuL** · 12-06-2010, 07:49 AM

Originally Posted by generics_user

AMD always had more competitive prices in the last 3 years, if it's priced higher than 580 from the start it has to offer a higher performance

I concur, but only if the price set by AMD is higher, not the price set by price gouging online outlets.

**Borden** · 12-06-2010, 09:29 AM

http://bbs.expreview.com/

**hurrdurr** · 12-06-2010, 09:33 AM

2GB... so not much info. Still, cool leak, bro

**Boissez** · 12-06-2010, 09:39 AM

Hmmm... could the 5950 have 2GB as default? Why would they blank it out otherwise?

**Oliverda** · 12-06-2010, 09:41 AM

"Mansell" & "Hamilton"

**Kimofil** · 12-06-2010, 09:49 AM

I hate stupid NDA rules. Cards in stock, but no info. Stupid world....

**andos** · 12-06-2010, 09:54 AM

Man.... I'd let go of an arm to get some straight Cayman info.

**tbone8ty** · 12-06-2010, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by ~CS~

In the highly unlikely scenario of 6970 being 30-40% faster then gtx 580,I will likely pick one up at launch.Not holding my breath for it,but it would be a pleasant surprise.

Then you'll be disappointed.... It is supposed to be 30-50% faster than the 5870 not the gtx 580.

**SimBy** · 12-06-2010, 10:32 AM

Even if it's just slightly faster than GTX580 it must be a huge downer for nV. Must be the shortest lived perf crown ever.

**hurrdurr** · 12-06-2010, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by SimBy

Even if it's just slightly faster than GTX580 it must be a huge downer for nV. Must be the shortest lived perf crown ever.

They don't have the perf. crown, GTX 580 is still slower than the 5970 overall; and if you were talking about single GPU performance then GTX 480 was significantly faster than the 5870 anyway, so it wasn't very short lived...

**zalbard** · 12-06-2010, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by andos

Man.... I'd let go of an arm to get some straight Cayman info.

If that is a robot arm then perhaps we could make a deal!

**SimBy** · 12-06-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by hurrdurr

They don't have the perf. crown, GTX 580 is still slower than the 5970 overall; and if you were talking about single GPU performance then GTX 480 was significantly faster than the 5870 anyway, so it wasn't very short lived...

I'm talking single-GPU only.

Well GTX480 was what 15% faster for at least 8 months now. Even though it was 6 months late.

Then comes GTX580 that's gonna hold that crown for only a month or so.

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