AMD Cayman info (or rumor)

[Dimitriman]

it means you can xfire your gpu with your fusion apu just like amd promissed. =)

[tbone8ty]

based on my calculations 6970 should be THIS faster than 580:

AMD's marketing is hot!

[generics_user]

Hm...So GPU power is additional with a GPU+Fusion CPU.

Xfire 66xx with Llano APU ?= 67xx performance for 50$ less

would be nice for those midrange users

and i can't wait to get my hands on this new drivers, CCC has been a PITA since they removed the explorer style menus

[kadozer]

If its a disappointment at least new Catalyst is looking sweet. Looks alot more intuitive and easier to manage.

[Manicdan]

funny thing is that even if the file is huge, ati has one of the fastest downloads ive ever used (limited to my measly comcast speeds). 80MB down before i even confirm the save location.

[kadozer]

funny thing is that even if the file is huge, ati has one of the fastest downloads ive ever used (limited to my measly comcast speeds). 80MB down before i even confirm the save location.

Hell yes I love their servers.

[zerazax]

The new Catalyst might be a reason why the 6900's got held back to December... big simultaneous release

[flippin_waffles]

Yeah, their servers are what I use to test or check my bandwidth.

[Funky]

I'm hoping the 8th like some rumors aid .

I doubt its 8th. I dont even think it will be 13th. 8th had more merit than 13th.
AMD tends to do launch on wednesdays. So 15th December is most likely.
Lets wait and watch.

[Iconyu]

I've not always been sure that the 6970 will be faster than the 580, I've been hopeful but not sure. But seeing Overclockers expect to sell at £400 I'd have to say faster. From the rumours yields are fine, even with 2GB of ram as standard AMD wouldn't charge that much unless (very worse case scenario) it was within 5% of the 580.

Basically the 580 is as near perfect as Fermi can get on 40nm, it's a strong card and AMD wouldn't charge equivalently unless they had a winner. Also neither company has let their PR dogs loose AMD has stayed silent that in my books means there's no damage control to be done.

The maths you've done hoping to figure Cayman out is very interesting, but we don't even know the real number of shaders. All we know is that Cayman is about as big as AMD is comfortable making, and that AMD could beat a 480 with a core slightly bigger than Cypress just using the optimisations found in Barts.

At £400 they are on price parity with both the 580 and the 5970 (which easily costs more to make) in the UK, which only means one thing, it wins.

[s1nykuL]

I've not always been sure that the 6970 will be faster than the 580, I've been hopeful but not sure. But seeing Overclockers expect to sell at £400 I'd have to say faster.

Overclockers have always price gouged new products for as much as they can get away with, especially if that new product is thin on the ground. I wouldn't use Overclocker prices as proof that the 6970 will be faster, it's just proof that they are trying to get as much money out of early adopters as possible.

[uncle fester]

Hey guys, i can let you know distributors are taking first shipment's this week and resellers have the option to start purchasing now for the release, This is for Australia i am unsure of other countries but imagine will be same time.
A little bit of inside info given to me is yes they are faster than 580 but by how much i have no idea and they wouldn't break NDA to divulge anything else.

[kuroikenshi]

Hey guys, i can let you know distributors are taking first shipment's this week and resellers have the option to start purchasing now for the release, This is for Australia i am unsure of other countries but imagine will be same time.
A little bit of inside info given to me is yes they are faster than 580 but by how much i have no idea and they wouldn't break NDA to divulge anything else.

are they going to have the usual stupid 40% above MSRP and blaming it on exchange differences of supply shortages???

[uncle fester]

are they gong to have the usual stupid 40% above MSRP and blaming it on exchange differences of supply shortages???

I can confirm that with BIG YES, they are blaming availability over here. But we know its purely because ppl will pay it.

This should push the 580 price down tho so will make that a good buy aswell.

[zerazax]

Well its good to know tho that the 6970 looks like it will be the fastest out there. Now the question is.. how much faster?

[kuroikenshi]

Well its good to know tho that the 6970 looks like it will be the fastest out there. Now the question is.. how much faster?

hummm i am just thinking about Antilles now,.....

[SimBy]

Kinda makes sense now why nV was so eager to get that GTX580 out in the wild. To get some positive reviews and sales before Cayman drops, otherwise they would look like complete losers.

[kuroikenshi]

I can confirm that with BIG YES, they are blaming availability over here. But we know its purely because ppl will pay it.

This should push the 580 price down tho so will make that a good buy aswell.

I've caught them out a few times and told them about it.... too bad ACCC is a toothless as an earthworm... no enforcement at all ....

[eric66]

Hey guys, i can let you know distributors are taking first shipment's this week and resellers have the option to start purchasing now for the release, This is for Australia i am unsure of other countries but imagine will be same time.
A little bit of inside info given to me is yes they are faster than 580 but by how much i have no idea and they wouldn't break NDA to divulge anything else.

what do you mean by they ? if 6950 is also faster than 580 that pretty much means beginning of new era in gpu industry

[zalbard]

Hey guys, i can let you know distributors are taking first shipment's this week and resellers have the option to start purchasing now for the release, This is for Australia i am unsure of other countries but imagine will be same time.
A little bit of inside info given to me is yes they are faster than 580 but by how much i have no idea and they wouldn't break NDA to divulge anything else.

Thanks for letting us know, it is appreciated!
Hopefully the price premium will not be huge assuming that there are no dramatic supply shortages (at least in certain areas).

[Iconyu]

Overclockers have always price gouged new products for as much as they can get away with, especially if that new product is thin on the ground. I wouldn't use Overclocker prices as proof that the 6970 will be faster, it's just proof that they are trying to get as much money out of early adopters as possible.

I'm comparing Overclockers 580 and 5970 prices to that £400.

what do you mean by they ? if 6950 is also faster than 580 that pretty much means beginning of new era in gpu industry

If the 6950 is faster too, then it'll be the 9700pro all over again. But I can't see that happening as the numbers we're hearing about shader count so far would put the two Cayman's pretty far apart.
If both are faster, then nvidia will be frozen out of DX11 altogether, I doubt you'd see a high profile physx game for another two years.

[Jeager]

Yeah, their servers are what I use to test or check my bandwidth.

Their files aren't big enough

I still can't wait for the releases of both cards and drivers (my 4850 have some hard times with my 24")

[generics_user]

Their files aren't big enough

I still can't wait for the releases of both cards and drivers (my 4850 have some hard times with my 24")

try adobe, they use the same hoster

[s1nykuL]

I'm comparing Overclockers 580 and 5970 prices to that £400.

Fair enough, I accept that price can be indicative of performance. The point I am trying to make is that the prices charged by an online store known for price gouging on new, hard to obtain GPU products shouldn't be taken as absolute indication of the performance of such GPU's. It is an indication of greed rather than performance.

For instance OC prices for an Asus 580 are approx £50 more than the same product from Scan. Does this mean that an Asus 580 purchased from OC is faster than the same Asus 580 purchased from Scan?

[Sn0wm@n]

hummm i am just thinking about Antilles now,.....

me too