Quote Originally Posted by tajoh111 View Post
I think some of these fanboys as you put it, simply want to see the 6970 out so there is competition for the gtx 580. With these delays not only is there no real competition for the gtx 580, they don't get to see the alternative choice in the form of the 6970.

A three week set back is significant because alot of people will not get there cards before christmas as Saaya has put. For some gamers that are in high school or university, having the card to enjoy for christmas is rather important because it will be when they have the most free time. In addition, having the choice to get the videocard they want and not regret it for a Christmas present is nice too.

I think many NVidia fanboys are simply frustrated by the amount of flak AMD fanboys have said about Nvidia card owners. In addition, from what I can read from your post, they are frustrated with AMD card owners simply being huffy about AMD and how AMD will send NV down like the sword of Damacles.

NV owners just want a competition between the two companies where they are on even playing field. Alot of the AMD fanboys want Nvidia to fall behinds so they can laugh at them and say they are a generation behind. Much of this is unfounded as well as much of the extreme optimism for AMD future products.

Of course there are certain hype Nvidia fanboys like the banned silicon doc who take fanboyism another level up.
Sure I whole heartedly agree about the Christmas shopping time ans the need for competition. Unfortunately AMD will be too late for good price adjustments to take place before the holiday and I am dissapointed with the three week delay. What Im simply stating is that a lot of people automatically assume that a 3 week delay means AMD is on the losing end and wont deliver a competitor to the 580.

That doesnt mean I believe Cayman will destroy the 580 at all I think it will be a +/- 5% close battle, just dont see how AMD cannot improve more than 20% over the 5870 like many say. Hell, even if they did a full blown 1600 shader 6870 chip it would be a good deal faster than the 5870 (considering 6870 is 5% slower with 1120 only). Yet they are still doing more than that so I surely bet on a very competitive Christmas.