Quote Originally Posted by marten_larsson View Post
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I do agree that some here have a bit of an attitude towards certain brands and I'm getting tired of it. However I don't believe you're the one to throw the first rock..
Yep, especially coming from a guy who kept trumpeting the propaganda of a certain nVidia fanboy from Czech, like this:

Quote Originally Posted by Vardant View Post
Some news from OBR
Launch date has been moved from 18th to 22nd
Most AIBs don't have the cards ready, some of them are still even working on the box design
Samples should arrive just before the launch
Limited supply of cards
No final spec. have been set yet
HD 6870 should be available in larger quantities in the middle of November, HD 6850 will follow later
It's going to be a paper launch
Nothing else planned till the end of the year
The rest has been postponed till January
BRAVO !

Quote Originally Posted by Vardant View Post
That's not the issue here.

There was some evidence suggesting a possible rename in case of AMD, but it was still deemed inappropriate to even talk about that, because it didn't happen yet.

But, the same people have no problem saying NV is going to rebrand without any shred of evidence or anyone at least hinting at it.
Have you ever heard a thing called GOODWILL ? AMD still have some in the tank, not so sure about nVidia though, regarding the renaming game. You want to shed a bad light over AMD, atleast let it happen first, accusation can only take you so far. You calls out some members as certain side fanboy, very much the definition of the pot calling the kettle black.

Quote Originally Posted by Manicdan View Post
well if caymen xt is right around the same power consumption as 580, then nvidia should have the ability to make an x2 card aswell.

the best of both single gpu cards should provide a fierce battle.
I don't think Cayman XT will be at GF110's level TDP speaking, my guess is at around 210-220 w. They put a 8 pin PEG supporting 300 w max board power, perhaps because of OCing support or less efficient (compared to Cypress board) VRM design which doesn't use digital VRM again, judging from the leaked PCB screen.

And we already know the definition of nVidia's Fermi GF 100 TDP is quite, hmm what should we call it ? different ? Last leak suggested 244 w TDP for GTX 580, we have to see first whether it was like GTX 480's fake 250 w TDP or more appropiate GTX 460's 160 w TDP.