New Swiftech H20-X20 Edge cooling kits

[gabe]

I ordered mine but seems you cannot do a push setup from bellow unless you do a push/pull config :/ ...

this is correct.

the current push config allows more dust comes into the case unless i'm wrong...

That is also correct, but most ppl who intall a liquid cooling system in their case are typically more interested in getting lower temps at low noise than anything else. If you are among those ppl that install gear, and never re-open their PC for a year or two after that, then by all means, reverse the fan direction so that you pull instead of pushing. That'll concentrate accumulation of the dust at the other intakes in the case where you hopefully have dust filters, that you hopefully clean off every once in a while

I for one always push fresh air into my systems for max thermal performance at minimum sound level, and do a clean-up every 6 months or so. Come to think of it, gotta do my workstation now

[Blacky]

this is correct.



That is also correct, but most ppl who intall a liquid cooling system in their case are typically more interested in getting lower temps at low noise than anything else. If you are among those ppl that install gear, and never re-open their PC for a year or two after that, then by all means, reverse the fan direction so that you pull instead of pushing. That'll concentrate accumulation of the dust at the other intakes in the case where you hopefully have dust filters, that you hopefully clean off every once in a while

I for one always push fresh air into my systems for max thermal performance at minimum sound level, and do a clean-up every 6 months or so. Come to think of it, gotta do my workstation now

Yeah I know, I'm not on among those, but sometimes cleaning a rad (fins) is a pain in the butt! at least for me

[Church]

Hmm, interesting. Noticed swiftech MCP35X-H pump top selling separately on jabtech. Would be nice if someone (hello, skinnee ), tests it alongside other DDC tops for apple to apple comparison. I somehow expect rather good performance compared to long time unupdated leaders from XSPC & EK tops ..

[jalyst]

Is this MCP35X-H the same as the MCP35X that comes with the edge kits?
What's the "-H" stand for?
And pardon my ignorance but what's a "DDC top" or "pump top"?

A comparison seconded if possible!?

[Creekin]

Heroin edition??

[Church]

jalyst: top is part of pump casing with specific shape cut out for pump's impeller. As stock one for DDC pumps is rather poorly designed (sharp 90deg angle in inlet reducing performance, instead of feeding water straight from top to center of impeller like custom tops do), using 3rd party tops usually noticeably increases pump performance, gives option to use any fittings of choice as have G1/4 threads, lessens noise and simply looks better . There are also several reservoirs with integrated pump tops (or in Edge kit case - radiators with integrated tops) to which you can mount rest parts of pump such as casing with engine & impeller, eg. such as by XSPC.
D5 stock top is better internal shape wise, so performance gains are minimal. You still get G1/4 threading & looks though.

[jalyst]

Interesting, was not aware of this, may be a worthwhile augmentation of my 220 Edge Kit!?
Thanks for taking the time to offer a helpful, & well considered response, cheers.

[Church]

Hmm, augmentation in what meaning? (my english is not too good). As something to buy separately? No need to. As i've said, edge kit radiators have similar pumptop as one i linked to, just that integrated into radiator (with rest of pump included aswell of course). I brought up that top that caught my eye among store new additions just because i couldn't quickly find separate topic for MCP35x pumps.
EDIT
Damn, i just seeked wrong. I should search for it not just among threads started by Gabe, but with searching in whole liquid cooling section.

[jalyst]

Woops I did misunderstand, my apologies!
I wonder exactly how the top integrated into the rad differs from the MCP35X-H?
I guess I'll have a look at some photos and determine differences from that....

[patriciogac]

Hi, I´m new to the forum and to Watercooling, so in first place I want to say hi to all you guys!
I´m just bought a H2O Edge 220 to cooling my i7 930 (@4ghz) on a MSI Big Bang Xpower. Before a get my watercooling set, I bought a CM 690 II Advanced, following the advice of the Swiftech´s homepage for an internal set up. For my surprise and to advice other users this case only support this kit on the bottom. As I have 5 HDD I can´t remove the (removible) bottom part of the HDD´s slots. If I try to install the kit on top of the case it touch the chipset heatsink of the Xpower. I know thinking on buying another new case, I have the option of a CM HAF X or a HAF 932, but i´m on doubt of wich would be enough to install my kit on top. If someone could give me some advice I will be grateful!
Sorry y english (I´m from Chile) and thank you again!

[MagisD]

Install off back with rad box.

Or buy a optical bay to hdd converter to make room.

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[patriciogac]

Thank you MagisD! I have it install on back, but the desk on the case goes is not so deep, so the case is "out" from the desk.... so I always imagine my new set with the watercooling inside. I think to put the HDD on the 5 1/4 bays is an option, not my prefer one, but an aoption. Thank you! Any other advice?

[Johnny87au]

good work swiftech, Would it be worth getting the 35x to replace my 3.25? .. Cant remember where i read but u mentioned not much of a difference.. ?

[Church]

I'm guessing that - to replace - not worth it. But it's worth to consider them for next builds .

[Captain_Harlock]

Hi patriciogac,

MagisD is talking about a module like this.

There are others, but this one is fairly common. Some can squeeze up to five HDD's in a single bay. The fan in front will keep them plenty cool. The biggest problem is with cable managment, and its really not an issue at all. Just one of them migth solve your issue.

[patriciogac]

Hi patriciogac,

MagisD is talking about a module like this.

There are others, but this one is fairly common. Some can squeeze up to five HDD's in a single bay. The fan in front will keep them plenty cool. The biggest problem is with cable managment, and its really not an issue at all. Just one of them migth solve your issue.

I understand. Thank you for your comments! Today I clear the bottom of my CM 690 II and tried to install the radiator there: NADA! It could be istalled there but applying pressure (I don´t think my PSU is to big). Tomorrow I will buy a HAF 932 to install the kit on top. I really like the HAF X but I´m not sure if it could be installed on top. What do you think?

[patriciogac]

Sorry guys if I redo my question, pehaps Gabe can help me.... Will this kit (the 220 version) fit on top of a HAF X? Thank you!!

[gabe]

Sorry guys if I redo my question, pehaps Gabe can help me.... Will this kit (the 220 version) fit on top of a HAF X? Thank you!!

Sorry, we have no info on the HAF X...

[jalyst]

jalyst: top is part of pump casing with specific shape cut out for pump's impeller. As stock one for DDC pumps is rather poorly designed (sharp 90deg angle in inlet reducing performance, instead of feeding water straight from top to center of impeller like custom tops do), using 3rd party tops usually noticeably increases pump performance, gives option to use any fittings of choice as have G1/4 threads, lessens noise and simply looks better . There are also several reservoirs with integrated pump tops (or in Edge kit case - radiators with integrated tops) to which you can mount rest parts of pump such as casing with engine & impeller, eg. such as by XSPC.
D5 stock top is better internal shape wise, so performance gains are minimal. You still get G1/4 threading & looks though.

Just wondering,

Can anyone (ideally from swifttech) comment on the differences between the MCP35X-H & the top in the H20-x20 Edge kits?
What are the subtle or significant differences, if any?

Anyone who's in good a position to do an "apples to apples", I'd love to hear your thoughts!

Thank-you.

[patriciogac]

Sorry, we have no info on the HAF X...

OK. I can confirm that the HAF X supports the Edge Kit inside on top of the case (I´ll put some pictures later). You have planty of space there, but you can´t install the kit other than there or at the back of the case with the incuded radbox. A Quiestion: I have a doubt about the inlet/outlet of the Apogee XLT included, are those the same or have an order; and what is the best order to put my tubes (out of the pump to center "inlet? barb" Please give me some orientation.

[patriciogac]

I´m planning on setup my Edge 220 with two GTX460 in SLI (i7 930 at 3.8 Ghz)... It would be enough power? If so, do you recommend the MCW80 or another waterblock (looking at flow restriction in the loop)

THANK YOU!

[jalyst]

that sounds pretty beefy, i would imagine you'd need more than what comes with the standard kit.
Best off starting a dedicated thread....