Quote Originally Posted by Sam_oslo View Post
The top single-GPU of a new generation usually beats/matches the double-GPU of last generation in performance and heat/power, with almost same price of the last gen single-GPU. It has been the rule of thumb in the past.

When AMD chooses to play nVidia's number-game in this round, then Cayman should beat the 5970 in performance and heat/power usage, with almost the same price of 5870 . If they can do that, then it's a good move, but that's going to be hard on the same 40nm node.

It will be inserting to see if they can pull off a "new generation" successfully, or it will be a re-fresh, re-brand, or evelution.
Go away please.

How would YOU have done the naming? HD 5860 and HD5890? HD 5960/5990? HD5999 for Antilles? X2? Why X2 when there is no X2 for dual Cypress board? Doesn't the 4+1 -> 4D transition warrant a new gen naming? What about the rumoured upcoming Fusion products "polluting" the naming scheme for lower end SKUs? What about the possible future plans to introduce Caicos and Turks to lower end parts to replace Redwood and Cedar? The fact which Nvidia leaked that OEMs want new gen stuff badly to ship with their products just gives more of a reason to not keep them as HD5xxx parts. Do you honestly believe that it would've been better for consumers to have 4-6 new cards in HD5xxx series during the next few months? And that Nvidia would've gotten away with next gen stuff while AMD couldn't have delivered it until 28nm? What do you think that these "average joes" who supposedly feel pissed because of HD68xx would have felt about AMD because they "failed to bring out new stuff" while Nvidia would push GTx 5xx series?

And people still do not understand what maximum board power and TDP stands for, and what's the actual difference between those two even though it has been discussed multiple times here on XS and other boards during the past few years or so, and was clarified by SKYMTL recently. Sigh.