NVIDIA to Counter Radeon HD 6970 ''Cayman'' with GeForce GTX 580

[tajoh111]

Hey wasn't trying to be a banana just pointing out the possible fallacy in invoking Charlie even if it serves a purpose for an argument.

This doesn't sound like Nvidia's m.o.

They usually
-announce product
-announce the date of product to be officially announced
-at official announcement, they setup a website with a counter and possibly show a non working prototype

Keep in mind the logistics and time constraints of all this, and realistically don't see GTX 580 until mid Q1 2011.

Maybe and for the better changed, Nvidia has changed its hyping tactics. The gtx 465 was hyped up more than the gtx 460 for example. I can't believe they called the crap that was the gtx 465, the next 8800gt.

In addition, this could be very well a paper launch to stop cayman sales(we might have performance numbers, but we won't be able to buy it from retailers) and anything Nvidia says before caymans launch would really antagonize the sales of the gtx 480 which still has a niche before cayman comes out. The gtx 580 is not a competitor for the 6870 so hyping it up when barts is out is pointless and would just add further scrutiny for their marketing practises.

If Nvidia had a big announcement for the release of a gtx 580 at this point, it would just kill gtx 480 numbers and really do nothing to the sales of barts.

Nvidia should be able to cook something up after the release of gf100 at this point, AMD was able to do it and they had a good product to begin with. NV has to do it because it has a seriously flawed product and if they ever want to get in the driver seat again, hopefully they have been feverously trying to get a new architecture or better yet experimenting on cards so they don't screw up their next release.

Nobody does, he's just trolling.

What the heck, trolling. I was just saying Charlie said this card might be coming. I wasn't even calling out other members or trying to get in a flaming costest. The tone of my post which Kadozer originally responded to was quite respectful. And he somehow still tried to imply my as the fanboy(which is definitely trolling). What's with double standards?

Originally Posted by tajoh111
Well if Charlie believes it(who would be the most pessimistic about NV releasing a response card), I would think it should be true.

How is that trolling? Especially in a thread which is specifically about the gtx 580? So basically if we don't say this card isn't coming out and the card is not being made, we are a troll, simply ridiculous. I think it might somehow be mistaken as trolling if this was the 6870 thread or an AMD thread. But in a thread that is specifically about the gtx 580? Man...I can't get some of these forum members reasoning.

I am not even being optimistic. In this thread, I have said if it comes out this year, it's likely going to be a paper launch. I have said nothing really about performance.