Feser's New Lineup

[meanmoe]

Well, that's all I need. I've never been one to play by rules (unless they served my purpose) so here goes. These are the communications I've had with Fester.



Disclaimer: The preceding "communications" did NOT actually take place and I'm not under any NDA with Fester. I am however under NDA elsewhere. This was only for fun.

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Hmmm...

[Alexandr0s]

Google couldn't translate all of that.

I wont be testing them, that's skinnee's job.

Indeed, I doubt anyone would trust your biased opinion (no offense) . Besides that, the day Feser sends you an item to test, I'll be glaring at the sky for pigs with wings .

[Elmy]

Indeed, I doubt anyone would trust your biased opinion (no offense) . Besides that, the day Feser sends you an item to test, I'll be glaring at the sky for pigs with wings .

I 2nd that

[Martinm210]

Haha...you got me for a minute there..

[avddreamr]

Truth be told, their secret element, is carbon, or in it's planer 1-sp orbital bonded carbon state....graphene.
It has 80 times the thermal conductivity in comparison to copper.

Well... it would take something like that to back up the hype.

[BeepBeep2]

the >9000 got me giggling like a tard

lmfao it's over 9000!

[Metroid]

Feser Admiral radiator mystery!

>9000 blistering.

Passed first week of October and nothing yet.

[Waterlogged]

Guys, there were clues in the entire post that it was nothing more than me having a little fun.

1. Do you really think I would email them, and for that matter, Do you think they would respond to me, let alone reveal their newest products secrets?

2. Unobtainium274. . .do I really need to say more?

3. >9000

[Alexandr0s]

Either that, or their CS has an amazingly awesome troll !

[Tetrafluorometh]

Feser Admiral radiator mystery!

Nice find!

[Waterlogged]

OK, so I had some spare time and was kind of bored on Monday and got to thinking about the tube size and layout on these rads. From all the available info I could find this is what I was able to come up with.

Disclaimer: This is only a guess, there is no inside info that I know that led me to this "conclusion".

Paper is 124mm x 61mm, the size they claim the standard 120mm series to be. I believe the O.D. of the tubes to be a little smaller than the dimes (17.82mm to 18.01mm), possibly 13mm to 15mm, the fins look to be about 2mm-3mm high, and the inside diameter of the tube is probably somewhere around 8mm to 10mm.

Again, this is just more speculation but it seems close from what I've been able to figure out.

[MpG]

Given the pictures, that's not unthinkable. You'd get pretty large gaps for air to flow through, possibly even better than the lowest FPI rads we have right now, which would in turn be a step towards solving the near-thermal saturation that we currently see with low speed fans on our radiators. Of course, the question is how much of that air would actually properly come in contact with the tubes...

[Church]

But wouldn't that in turn overly too much reduce area of fins? Of course, it would be easier to blow through/less airflow lost from quiet & slow fans with weak static pressure, but just replacing fin area with easier to blow through seems wrong aswell. Just different chosen compromise. And probably could be done/got same and for much cheaper with classic rad design lowering FPI even furthier to some .. 4 FPI?

[pluck]

All radiators are a compromise between air flow (volume of air that passes through the radiator) and air saturation (temp of air out/water out).

To get higher air saturation you have to increase the area of fin that the air passing through the radiator comes into contact with, this can be done by either increasing the thickness of the radiator or using a higher fin density. No matter which way you go about it though the resistance that the air passing through the radiator will experience will increase, and therefore the volume of air passing through will also decrease due to the increased resistance.

Browsing over results for triple radiators on skinnee labs the thin 14 FPI MCR320 actually performs better than the 8 FPI RX360 at the lowest fan speed (600RPM), which indicates that the MCR is actually less restrictive than the RX in terms of air flow despite having a much higher fin density. Since the fin density of the MCR is slightly less than double the RX, and it also only has slightly less resistance to the air flow through it (as shown by the slightly better performance at lower fan speeds) I think it is a reasonable assumption that if the MCR had 16 FPI it would perform virtually identically to the RX which is double the thickness with half the fin density.

Essentially the point I am trying to make is that making thick radiators with low fin densities is pointless, as it costs a load more to manufacture (if retail prices of single thickness vs double thickness radiators is any indication) and the performance is identical to a radiator half the thickness with double the fin density (lower pressure drop is pretty much the only advantage of thicker radiators). For me the ideal radiator would be a single thickness radiator supplied with a fan shroud, which would give it essentially the same dimensions with the shroud fitted as a double thickness radiator but with better performance at the same fan speeds (assuming the double thickness radiator had half the fin density of the single).

tl;dr thick low fin density radiators are not the solution to producing a better performing radiator with low production costs.

[Monkey Puzzled]

OK, so I had some spare time and was kind of bored on Monday and got to thinking about the tube size and layout on these rads. From all the available info I could find this is what I was able to come up with.

Disclaimer: This is only a guess, there is no inside info that I know that led me to this "conclusion".

Paper is 124mm x 61mm, the size they claim the standard 120mm series to be. I believe the O.D. of the tubes to be a little smaller than the dimes (17.82mm to 18.01mm), possibly 13mm to 15mm, the fins look to be about 2mm-3mm high, and the inside diameter of the tube is probably somewhere around 8mm to 10mm.

Again, this is just more speculation but it seems close from what I've been able to figure out.

Going by their figures on volume and length of tubing the inner diameter of the tubes is approx 1.13cm.

[Nobundu]

Any news on when you will have one of these Admirals for testing Skinnee?

I am really looking forward on not only reading this review, but the Thermochill TA Review too.
Keep up the good work.

[skinnee]

I'm not expecting to test the Admiral series in October. And trying to get the TA review complete this weekend.

[kinghong1970]

this thread is pure win!

[LogAn'sRun]

so is it confirmed these rads have alu in them?

[WaterFlex]

Feser ownage

[ryan92084]

so is it confirmed these rads have alu in them?

i think the only thing confirmed at this point is that the feser website is an assualt on your senses

[Metroid]

Feser Admiral radiators - release delayed

We tried to contact Feser in order to clarify some details about its new radiator line-up Admiral. Unfortunately, there is nothing new we could find – the manufacturer stated they continue to work on the radiators, which, WE BELIEVE, will inevitably lead to changes in some specifications, published earlier. The actual release date of the final product is also delayed.

Despite the great interest to Feser’s new radiators, we’ll all have to wait a bit more – Admiral rads is a new generation of radiators for PC water-cooling with all its wealth of innovation.

Manufacturer has to create new product practically from scratch so to please us with best performance and reliability of the product.

http://hw-lab.com/feser-admiral-radi...e-delayed.html

so is it confirmed these rads have alu in them?

Not confirmed, only rumoured.

[turtletrax]

Facepalm.....


Running out of reasons to dissagree with WL...

I know it is five years in Hypersleep to get back from Pandora, so these MUST be made from Unobtainium.

[rheydt]

any link for test review on these rads full of innovations

[bundymania]

No Rads...no Test, simple as counting to 3 Maybe Release until Xmas ? Who knows......

http://www.dazmode.com/store/index.p...&cPath=154_155