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    Quote Originally Posted by savantu View Post
    Instead of trying to find some weirdo explanations, we could take his words at face value. The words he uses are pretty straightforward :
    I wouldn't be surprised of some intentional misleading done previously for deceiving the competition.
    Looking at Mark's answer again with a little more time, I see that he refers to using 128 bit wide EUs (point 1) by Eric) during 2 consecutive clock cycles as double pumping (and thus execute a 256 bit SIMD instruction). This is a different kind of double pumping using base clock cycles as smallest unit.

    Ok. Let me cite another Intel employee posting in the same thread (and has been quoted here already IIRC):
    It seems point 1) may have assumed it requires monolithic 256-bit hardware to achieve 1 cycle throughput for 256-bit AVX instructions. That's not true.
    With "misleading" you mean the first AVX LO/HI chart? I think there simply was not much time between publishing the first chart and the corrected one to have some meaningful effect.

    OTOH saving die area and thus leakage (which would limit performance otherwise) doesn't look to be a bad choice. So why are you defending a monolithic implementation so heavily?

    @Hans:
    Thanks for the links.
    Last edited by Dresdenboy; 08-11-2010 at 05:52 AM.
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