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    It's cardboard launch as was obvious from month ago
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    So hey... if the NDA is lifted on the 26th, is that going to be EST time or what? Cause technically we can get reviews today starting at 12pm EST from the other side of the world!

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    IF it is indeed delayed, then i feel like nvidia is manipulating the consumer. I am pretty sure they knew the proper launch date (april 12th now?), but they instead said it would be released earlier so that more people would wait for it instead of getting an ATI card for example. Even if these are just rumours (but they do end up becoming true), its better for nvidia to spread rumours than making official announcements about each fictional launch date. Even if they were honestly planning to release it earlier but failed, it doesnt make the situation any better. I really hope Fermi is a good card (or at least not a "failure") but there is no need to treat us like idiots.

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    PST i guess
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    Well.... NDA could lift today at 2pm. nVidia might be playing the released to retail card here, to separate NDA from availability. No-one is expecting good availability for weeks, so if release is postponed, the no-mans land of "available" Vs actually BEING available is shorter... which looks less bad, just a shame that most people spell F-E-R-M-I as D-E-L-A-Y no-one matter how is played or spun.


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    Sweclockers (swedish forum / news site) claims their review will be up 1 minute past midnight tonight if I recall correctly.
    Thats 9h from now.
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    480 can't be 625mhz or anything, if it was it would be practically indistinguishable from 470.
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldenTiger View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
    480 can't be 625mhz or anything, if it was it would be practically indistinguishable from 470.
    Why 480 has 480 shaders also it has greater no of other units as well....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ajaidev View Post
    Why 480 has 480 shaders also it has greater no of other units as well....
    Which, if everything was linear (which it isn't) would make a 7% better card than 470, which is impossible.

    About availability. One week after launch was OK and even "standard practice" but two weeks is a lot, plus whatever changed in the BIOS and the cooler probably won't be reflected in the reviews which have already been written.
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by fellix View Post
    Overclocked GTX470 run in 3DMark Vantage, incl. all feature tests.
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    That cant be right, can it? Its overclocked and the score is total gash
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arxagelos View Post
    12 april? this is very disappointing. They ask as if we are "ready", we are ready but it seems they are not and who knows where ever they will be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by h0bbes View Post
    IF it is indeed delayed, then i feel like nvidia is manipulating the consumer.
    nvidia manipulating the consumer??? gez man! get a grip! they have done no such thing and never will!

    Quote Originally Posted by onethreehill View Post
    isnt that with physix?

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    hmm I get over 12500 GPU pts on an overclocked 4890 with an E8400 :/ So this means an overclocked 470 is only around 30% faster than a 4890? :/

    seems pretty trash to me
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    Quote Originally Posted by saaya View Post
    isnt that with physix?
    Of course,over 50k cpu score cant be posssible without gpu physX...

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    Quote Originally Posted by K404 View Post
    That cant be right, can it? Its overclocked and the score is total gash
    Vantage and Crysis seem to be the worst apps for Fermi.
    Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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    Wouldn't be surprise if tomorrow I see a lot of sad faces or some going emo and /wrist because of disappointing...not saying I know what results are going to be, but I don't expect a miracle either from what we seen so far.
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    gpu score 16645 with overclock? I think my 295 does about 18000 points default. Maybe the overclock isn't very hi in 470.
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    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
    Vantage and Crysis seem to be the worst apps for Fermi.
    As opposed of G200

    But that P-score is about 33% higher than the score posted by jared a few pages ago (14992)

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    Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
    Vantage and Crysis seem to be the worst apps for Fermi.
    So funny, ATI is dominating in Vantage and Crysis, which used to run way better in nVidia hardware, while nVidia is dominating in DIRT and Battleforge, which are "ATI's" games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by japamd View Post
    As opposed of G200

    But that P-score is about 33% higher than the score posted by jared a few pages ago (14992)
    Because he used Physx in this run, I think. Not sure if he used it in the previous run as well, haven't seen that screenshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musho View Post
    Because he used Physx in this run, I think. Not sure if he used it in the previous run as well, haven't seen that screenshot.
    Physx doesn't do anything to the pscore i don't think. I could be mistaken though?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gurusan View Post
    Physx doesn't do anything to the pscore i don't think. I could be mistaken though?
    I doesn't? Oh, my mistake then. I always thought it did, and that that was the reason they banned Physx enabled results from the ORB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gurusan View Post
    Physx doesn't do anything to the pscore i don't think. I could be mistaken though?
    Pretty sure it adds a couple thousand...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Musho View Post
    So funny, ATI is dominating in Vantage and Crysis, which used to run way better in nVidia hardware, while nVidia is dominating in DIRT and Battleforge, which are "ATI's" games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Musho View Post
    Because he used Physx in this run, I think. Not sure if he used it in the previous run as well, haven't seen that screenshot.
    You're right, previous scores are way too low to have physx enabled.

    Quote Originally Posted by gurusan View Post
    Physx doesn't do anything to the pscore i don't think. I could be mistaken though?
    It indeed does change a lot.

    No physx



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    GPU score is higher on first image, but P-score is lower due to physx.

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