The Fermi Thread - Part 3

[STEvil]

GTX500: 512sp, $700
GTX490: ?
GTX480: 480sp, $500
GTX470: 448sp, $350

[GoldenTiger]

GTX512: 512sp, $700
GTX480: 480sp, $500
GTX470: 448sp, $350

Lol @ the moniker GTX512.

[Marios]

Update: VR-ZONE


http://forums.vr-zone.com/7790889-post30.html

This busy guy packing cards has a good sense of humor.
Other than that please find another source.

[Marios]

two versions of the GTX480?

Exactly.

The Zotac GTX480 speed version in flames. Hot.



The Zotac GTX480. Icy Cool... br

[Jowy Atreides]

Free Razer mice with Zotac?

Total win. Imperator with ma 480 *cool guy face*

[Vardant]

Didn't we hear, that we won't see Fermi based cards from XFX in the first wave? Who was it, so I can ignore him from now on



http://translate.google.com/translat...om%2F9888.html

[onethreehill]

The launch of the GeForce GTX 400 series is just weeks away and we finally got our samples. We can't share any more specific details on the card or architecture, but we will try to make up for it at launch day. During the day we received some information from a big Swedish distributor that could confirm the pricing of the GeForce GTX 400 family.

The MSRP will be around 5100 SEK (divide by ten to get USB/EUR) for the top model GeForce GTX 480 and around 3600 ($360) for GeForce GTX 470. The prices on launch day may vary a bit depending the store and even if the prices are averaged it shows how NVIDIA intends to price the cards.

http://www.nordichardware.com/en/com...00-prices.html

[LiquidReactor]

Update: VR-ZONE


http://forums.vr-zone.com/7790889-post30.html

Updated with final clocks too :

GeForce GTX 480 : 480 SP, 700/1401/1848MHz core/shader/mem, 384-bit, 1536MB, 295W TDP, US$499

GeForce GTX 470 : 448 SP, 607/1215/1674MHz core/shader/mem, 320-bit, 1280MB, 225W TDP, US$349

1401 for memory or shader? Clockspeeds do not make much sense. If 1848Mhz is shader clock thats amazing (besides the 700Mhz core clock).

[GoldenTiger]

1401 for memory or shader? Clockspeeds do not make much sense. If 1848Mhz is shader clock thats amazing (besides the 700Mhz core clock).

The quote claims 1401 shader... it says core/mem/shader respectively.

[mindfury]

1401 for memory or shader? Clockspeeds do not make much sense. If 1848Mhz is shader clock thats amazing (besides the 700Mhz core clock).

1401 is shader's clock.GF100's core clock is GPC clock,not the ROP/L2 clock,so GF100's core clock is half of the shader's clock.

[zerazax]

Looks like the 480 had some units disabled in exchange for higher clocks

The 470 has seriously low memory clocks though

[LordEC911]

Didn't we hear, that we won't see Fermi based cards from XFX in the first wave? Who was it, so I can ignore him from now on



http://translate.google.com/translat...om%2F9888.html

You do realize that is a mockup, right? Don't you find it strange that they don't have a full card to take pics with?
We will see about who is shipping this month... cause it should be no one, expect Nvidia to AIBs.

[***Deimos***]

So is it March 26 or April 6?

What happens with all the chips with less than 448SP functioning?
After 20+ months since GT200, only 2 models to be launched?? 0_o?

Why is nobody pounding fists at GTX460...

Unless nVidia has a really BIG SECRET, in a week or 2, there will be really strange product lineup situation:
GTX480/470 - for shizzle
empty
empty
formerly GTX285 which is EOL
empty
GTX260/275 - low volumes
good old G90's...

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EDIT: vs AMD with full lineup.. no holes, no redundancy.. neat and organized.
5970, 5870, 5850, 5830 (replacing 4890), 5770 (replacing 4850/4770), 5750, 56xx etc

[RPGWiZaRD]

Hopefully GTX 470 will have a decent OC and not significantly lowered volts, 750/1500/1950 on stock cooler is whereabouts I hope the max clocks on stock cooler/volts would be.

[Olivon]

Hope too ... 750/1500/1950 on OC will be great

[Dark-Energy]

http://www.nordichardware.com/en/com...00-prices.html

So $510 for the 480? And how much is the 5870 currently?

[RPGWiZaRD]

Hope too ... 750/1500/1950 on OC will be great

Altough I'm sure it won't be quite that high in average for GTX 470 but probably for good samples, maybe 700~730 core, 1450~1500 shader and 1900 mem is probably more reasonable expection for a fermi card in avg but that would still be a decent OC.

[SimBy]

Hopefully GTX 470 will have a decent OC and not significantly lowered volts, 750/1500/1950 on stock cooler is whereabouts I hope the max clocks on stock cooler/volts would be.

GTX480 is suppose to be 700MHz with TDP barely below 300W. How in gods name do you expect to overclock GTX470 to 750MHz?

It's not happening. Not on 2x6pin and crappy PCB that we've seen.

[pentium777]

Haven't posted in a while but figured I'd give my 2 cents. I had 2xGTX 280 SLI from Nov 08 till about 2 weeks ago. I sold one of my GTX 280s fairly cheap (current ebay pricing) and still running one of them. I have a stack of games here waiting to be played Crysis, COD4,5, Bioshock 1&2, The Witcher, Mass Effect 1&2, Assassin's Creed, Oblivion, Dragon Age, Fallout 3, Fear 1&2 and probably 1 or 2 others.

I'm currently playing BF:BC2 and pretty addicted to it, why do I have this stack of games waiting? Because I run a 3008WFP @ 2560x1600 and just can't play these awesome games with anything less than max settings and it has to be SMOOTH gameplay, level of AA not that important but 4x is nice to have. I'm on a 790i board with 8GB DDR3 @ 1680mhz with E8400 @ 4Ghz and I'm stuck with not being able to run crossfire. I invested money into Samsung 256GB SSD drives bought 3 of them put into Raid0 (spent/wasted $2100) which was quite foolish I admit but income was better before than it is right now.

I've been anticipating Fermi GPU (GTX 480) for a while now and I can't really remember a GPU that's had this much secrecy. I have a friend in a board partner company that said he's been told he can lose his job if he says anything... Which I find very odd, is this secrecy to get early adopter's money BEFORE any benches and real performance numbers??? Disappointed to see 512 SP slashed to 480 SP, however as mentioned the clock speed of GPU seems higher than was expected. I've had to change BF:BC2 to Medium graphics @ 2560x1600 to ensure it is fluid when there is a lot of smoke/fire which tends to happen a lot.

I really hope I don't regret buying these when they come out as I'll be 2xGTX 480 SLI, last ATI card I had was X1900XTX or X1950XTX something like that and main game was BF2 back then, there were horrible shader glitches and very jagged AA issues. Really hated the ATI Catalyst drivers as well so I really don't want to go back to ATI. With all of the specs and the card pushing the 300W barrier of PCI-E compliance along with 3 billion transistors I really hope performance matches the card specs. I'm thinking 1xGTX 480 should be 2xGTX 280 since there are double the SPs, higher clock (my GTX 280 was 615mhz) faster and more ram. If so then 2xGTX 480 would be similar to 4xGTX 280 which I'd expect will give me the performance I need for another 12-18 months?

Apologies for long post, I don't post often, any thoughts on my thinking here?

[LiquidReactor]

The quote claims 1401 shader... it says core/mem/shader respectively.

1401 is shader's clock.GF100's core clock is GPC clock,not the ROP/L2 clock,so GF100's core clock is half of the shader's clock.

So...is 1850Mhz already GDDR5 doubled speed? As in 925Mhz actual or 3700Mhz after the 4x

I dont think any of the 7Ghz GDDR5 chips are out yet thats why I am wondering about the memory speeds.

[Macadamia]

So...is 1850Mhz already GDDR5 doubled speed? As in 925Mhz actual or 3700Mhz after the 4x

I dont think any of the 7Ghz GDDR5 chips are out yet thats why I am wondering about the memory speeds.

If you align the previous info about the GTX 470 having 800Mhz (3.2G) GDDR5, it's 3.7Ghz for the GTX 480 here.

>6Ghz speeds are not really here yet. Signal robustness (errors?) and the fact that a memory controller from a 2008/9 tapeout design probably did not account for such speeds.

[tajoh111]

How much faster does a SLI gtx 480 have to be to match quadfire 5970s. Considering the only resolution where such power shows itself is 2500*1600 where video memory will play a limiting effect and dualcard sli will scale better than quadfire, I can imagine for people with 30" monitors the gtx 480 might look like a better card in alot of ways. Would SLI gtx 480 at 1.2(5870) be match quadfire 5970 at 2500*1600 considering scaling issues with the 5970?

The power consumption looks awful those. This near 300 watts is a disaster in so many ways. I think classified editions of such cards won't be all for not anymore, as this card looks like it can use another 8 pin or something. I hope a company comes out with a custom PCB without the hole and a standard waterblock.

The refresh looks like the card to buy those the gtx 485 should be an overclockers dream, if they are indeed already hitting 700/1400 with this current revision.

[Behemot]

NVIDIA moving media embargo to March 29th


http://www.nordichardware.com/en/com...arch-29th.html

This remembered me how Fuad talked the Fermi is Q3 which could mean we'll see them the last day of march

[h0bbes]

Is there any way of knowing how the SLI GTX 480 will scale?

[eric66]

How much faster does a SLI gtx 480 have to be to match quadfire 5970s. Considering the only resolution where such power shows itself is 2500*1600 where video memory will play a limiting effect and dualcard sli will scale better than quadfire, I can imagine for people with 30" monitors the gtx 480 might look like a better card in alot of ways. Would SLI gtx 480 at 1.2(5870) be match quadfire 5970 at 2500*1600 considering scaling issues with the 5970?

The power consumption looks awful those. This near 300 watts is a disaster in so many ways. I think classified editions of such cards won't be all for not anymore, as this card looks like it can use another 8 pin or something. I hope a company comes out with a custom PCB without the hole and a standard waterblock.

The refresh looks like the card to buy those the gtx 485 should be an overclockers dream, if they are indeed already hitting 700/1400 with this current revision.

there won't be any 20 percent if shader difference between 470 and 480 is 32 only imho