The GT300/Fermi Thread - Part 2!

[***Deimos***]

Couldn't agree more. Never in history has a launch card using a new API been able to master it first generation. I doubt we will see strong DX11 cards until at least 3rd generation, perhaps 2nd gen refresh best case. That said, what they did with Cypress was a smart buisness move none the less. I'm sure Nvidia will push DX11 now they can call it relavent but if the past repeats itself, I am not buying it (their marketing). Hell I had a 8800gtx launch week for a good 14 months and never felt DX10 was relavent until much later...

Mr obvious. Ofcourse future cards are faster with better features - why else would folks upgrade and buy them?

And I think you underestimate the ENORMOUS effort in architecture, design, floorplanning, validation, etc to get even chips as similar as 9800GT and 9600GT made. FYI 5800fx and 7900GTX were both DX9, but they are very very different.

its getting ridiculous how many people think gf100 does not have fixed function tessellation. if they are that incompetent maybe they should hire people off of tech forums to architect their gpu's. most people probably dont know the difference from fixed function logic or programmable logic anyways.

what they did was fairly simple. gf100 basically is setting up the scene in parallel compared to serial setup of other gpus. it works well for all of the small triangle tessellation creates.

Does it really matter? The means to an end? R600 doesn't have either 2D core or correctly working AA hardware. Yet you can surf web and play games with AA.

Obviously fake

lol, my memory bandwith is better

Ghz -> GB = 1000000 / 1024^2 = 0.9313 GiB
512bit DDR = 512 * 2 / 8 = 128 (384=96, 320=80)
For GDDR5 double the clock rate shown, because GDDR5 fetches twice #bits at a time.

(if you dont use the Ghz->GB conversion factor, you will get same number as GPU-Z)
So, for your GTX295: (512/4) x 1.512Ghz = 128 x 1.512 x 0.9313 = 180.2 GigaBytes/s (GiB/s)
GTX480 from screenshot would be: (384/4) x 1.8 x 0.9313 = 160.9 GigaBytes/s (GiB/s)
For reference 5870: (256/4) x 2.4 x 0.9313 = 143.0 GigaBytes/s (GiB/s)

Almighty GTX480 only a smidgen ahead ... pff.. marketing PR wont stand for that.
Using same clocks as 5870, 480 will be 50% more, or 214.6GiB/s (or 230GB/s in marketing speak - very close to 5970's 256GB/s!!)