If the advantage is for future dx11 games, then thats not really an advantage for consumer usage. By the time there is any spectacular or even semi decent game (AvP is bad and runs poorly anyway) there will be MUCH better dx11 hardware out. What matters is current games, if gtx480 is the same as 5870, then whats the point for consumers? I want performance in current games not games in 2 years, if I did I'd buy a card in 2 years. If gtx480 does in fact more or less equal 5870, then theres no reason to buy any card from this generation as simply put its just not a big enough step up in performance on any level.