Quote Originally Posted by annihilat0r View Post
Meh. Which card, EVER, was able to give that? On all modern games? We're talking about a med/high resolution with 4xaa and 16AF. And a MINIMUM of 60 fps?

Then I guess you have been limiting yourself to playing Doom 3 or so for eternity. I mean, current games are all console ports so they are light for the PC and all, but a minimum of 60 fps for high IQ is too much to demand.

It's just people seeing that there has been absolutely NO increase in graphics quality (except for Crysis) in like 3 years, while PC graphics capability has increased five fold; seeing the regular FPS numbers on the roof and then trying to find & justify the meaning for buying an expensive graphics card.

I am on 1920x1200 and I find that even a 5870 can be overkill most of the cases. Just think, I haven't overclocked the card even 1 mhz, and I didn't even install the 10.1 drivers (current is 10.3) because the system doesn't break a sweat on 4xAA and 16xAF in all games, except Crysis.

I am fine with not having min 60 fps in games. It's impossible to generalize it anyway. On Crysis 30-40fps average is perfectly fine whereas on some games the FPS changes from 50 to 200 in a matter of seconds, so you do want 60 fps. It's more like a matter of having constant FPS rather than a high one. If your avg Crysis FPS is 35, chances are it hardly ever goes below 30 and above 40. You get used to it and play the game perfectly.

Given my background is in competitive first person shooters, my demands are higher than most I will admit but I am someone who gets very annoyed with framerate drops / slowdowns. On the topic of Crysis I actually play them with a 360 controller as controllers tend to deal with lower framerates much better than mice. Now most things I play rarely dip bellow 60 but some the odd game does and sometimes frequently. Again, just my subjective demands for ideal gameplay. Don't take this as I *won't* play something at less than 60fps, I just greatly prefer 60+, if at all possible. This is more for input reasons, not visual reasons. 30 fps constant looks fine to me, but it doesn't feel fine. I confess I don't play things online nearly as much as I used to and as I find myself gravitating torwards single player games, I am not nearly as fussy as I used to be but I still demand a smooth experiance. Now this is mostly in regards to first person shooters, as RTS games and SIMS do completely fine at lower framerates ( eg Supreme Commander, World in Conflict ect )

Anyways back when 1680x1050 was the bees knees, I have to say the 8800GTX provided a very nice experiance for many months, probaley the best I've had with a launch card ever. I'm waiting for the next card that does this but at 1920x1200. We are getting closer but we still are not there yet and with the advent of advanced ambient occlussion and tessalation in current and upcoming games, its going to be a while yet.