Quote Originally Posted by Blacky View Post
Idk I just have the feeling Fermi is the new R600...even if is faster than GT200 products won't be offering the true performance we expected, and knowing nvidia the prices are going to be sky-high, is not worth releasing a product that would run 10-20 fps faster than competition (lets say GTX480 vs 5870) for $300 more...or yet slower than competition offerings (GTX480 vs 5970) for same price or even more expensive...ending up being hotter and a lot more demanding on watts... idk I just lost hope on nvidia in this generation...I guess is all up on nvidias driver team (they are way much better than ATi by the way) to make Fermi "shine"
well R600 wasnt that much faster compared to their previous parts, but even if you look at a worst case scenario of less than 480sps and lower than 600mhz clocks, its STILL going to be notably faster than a gtx285... so like i said before, i dont think perf is a problem... heat and power and cost, yeah... especially cost...

the thing is, nvidia stumbled with fermi but they were so far in the lead that they didnt really fall behind, at least i dont think so...

and their driver team... im scared of them man
whenever they had perf issues in the past and needed their counterpart to an ati card to perform slightly better, they went for very questionable optimizations... ati too, i know, but nvidia was much worse... the geforce fx spawned SOME ugly image quality for all nvidia cards, not just the fx series...
im worried that fermi underperfoming will result in them lowering the image quality on all cards, including my 260s :S

Quote Originally Posted by jmke View Post
what games, besides Crysis&CrysisWH, don't run at 60+ at 1920x1200 4xAA/16xAF with HD 5970 ?
exactly!
hence the multi monitor and 3d and physix stuff...
if your hardware is too fast for the software, make the software slower