The GT300/Fermi Thread - Part 2!

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Seems to me Fermi is going to fail, if I was nvidia I would dump fermi (like intel did with Larrabe) and go for the next-gen gpu, at this point fermi will born dead, since ATi is cooking their next-gen too and if Fermi performance is on par with ATi current offerings is going to be even worse for the green guys...I don't know what is passing through nvidia mind, they had problems with GT200 at start because the chip was gigantic, they had problems jumping to 55nm too and now the do the same mistake. AFAIK you learn from the mistakes you did in the past to no do it again, but seems nvidia doesn't...

i think thats too pessimistic man...
think about it, even a 600mhz 480sp part will be a double gtx280... its not going to be slow... it will be less than nvidia hoped for and less than some expect, but it will be able to compete with 5870 and 5970... its not like nvidia will lose the performance battle... if anything it will be a draw with both ati and nvidia winning some here and some there...

cancelling fermi would not make sense... you wouldnt be able to release a new gpu faster by cancelling fermi, you would just lose all the money you invested in it and let ati reign free... im sure they are focussing a lot on their next gen project right now, but fermi wont be cancelled...
performance isnt the problem to begin with, its cost...
and nvidia has two good chances to improve on that, they can improve 40nm yields with a new stepping which they are already working on, and there is 28nm...

those are both risky though... their main problem is cost, and the only safe way to improve on that is cutting fermi down... i really hope they will get a cut down fermi out asap... its good for nvidia, and its good for us... there wont be notable price impacts from a 470 and 480 in low quantities... its even possible that prices dont change at all after fermi launches... : /
no price drops = hw industry slows down even more, consoles eat more market share = worse gaming overall... cause lets face it, consoles CANT replace pcs when it comes to gaming...

Hi my friend, good to see you again. One of the great inventions of this forum is the ignore list. Just type in his name, like the rest of us, and it's like he's not here at all. Just like some kind of magic... :-)

Thank you for addressing and illuminating the various issues raised and for not loosing your patience with us.

Rob

hey dude
yeah i know, but even geforceti4200 and some other guys who were much worse than him didnt make me use that function
plus with all the strange comments he posts he gets quoted frequently so ill end up seeing his posts anyhow...

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this prophet just don't give up

thats what fermi causes jensen for sure, cold sweats and fast heartbeats... and i bet it causes him quite some sleepless nights too
but luckily he knows he doesnt make mistakes and he just has to insist on his ideas for long enough to be successful