Asus P6T Deluxe Discussion Thread

[Amurtigress]

Guys anyone know where to get the Asus DOS Utility for Bios flashing?

I need to install and older bios version than the one installed and it seems that's impossible without that app...

(i recently updated my vanilla P6T to the new 0904 bios and somehow it borked my stable OC config, it'll hardly boot when OCed now..)

Hi,

I've posted the link to the engineering AFUDOS verion earlier here in the thread, we use it for crossflashing. But it'll just do what you need, too. Sorry since I can't remember which post it was but it has been referred to here several times.

[Amurtigress]

Looking for a 4.4 stable suggestion, cant seem to find it stable. Ive found a 4.2 but I cant seem to surpass that, so far im good specs in sig but any kind of recommendation would help.

Hi,

the best prolly would be to post a filled out template of your BIOS settings. maybe I overlooked some of your settings throughout the thread...however what are we supposed to recommend not knowing "where" you're stuck.

[infected_]

Guys anyone know where to get the Asus DOS Utility for Bios flashing?

I need to install and older bios version than the one installed and it seems that's impossible without that app...

(i recently updated my vanilla P6T to the new 0904 bios and somehow it borked my stable OC config, it'll hardly boot when OCed now..)

here you go:

http://www.mediafire.com/file/iytzoj...FUDOS229ES.zip

regards,

infected_

[infected_]

Looking for a 4.4 stable suggestion, cant seem to find it stable. Ive found a 4.2 but I cant seem to surpass that, so far im good specs in sig but any kind of recommendation would help.

Fill these:

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner:
CPU Ratio Setting:
Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech:
Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech:
BLCK Frequency:
PCIE Frequency:
DRAM Frequency:
UCLK Frequency:
QPI Link Data Rate:

DRAM Timing Control:

1st Information :

CAS# Latency:
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay:
DRAM RAS# PRE Time:
DRAM RAS# ACT Time:
DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay
DRAM REF Cycle Time:
DRAM Write Recovery Time:
DRAM Read to Precharge Time:
DRAM FOUR ACT WIN Time:
DRAM Back-To-Back CAS# Delay:

2nd Information :

DRAM Timing Mode:
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHA:
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHB:
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHC:

3rd Information :

DRAM WRITE To READ Delay (DD):
DRAM WRITE To READ Delay (DR):
DRAM WRITE To READ Delay (SR):
DRAM READ To WRITE Delay (DD):
DRAM READ To WRITE Delay (DR):
DRAM READ To WRITE Delay (SR):
DRAM READ To READ Delay (DD):
DRAM READ To READ Delay (DR):
DRAM READ To READ Delay (SR):
DRAM WRITE To WRITE Delay (DD):
DRAM WRITE To WRITE Delay (DR):
DRAM WRITE To WRITE Delay (SR):


CPU Voltage:
CPU PLL Voltage:
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage:
IOH Voltage:
IOH PCIE Voltage:
ICH Voltage:
ICH PCIE Voltage:
DRAM Bus Voltage:
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA:
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA:
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB:
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB:
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC:
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC:


Load Line Calibration:
CPU Differential Amplitude:
CPU Clock Skew:
CPU Spread Spectrum:
IOH Clock Skew :
PCIE Spread Spectrum:


Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting:
C1E Suppport:
Hardware Prefetcher:
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch
Intel® Virtualization Tech:
CPU TM Function:
Execute Disable Bit:
Intel (R) HT Techology:
Active Processor Cores:
A20M:
Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech:
Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech:
Intel (R) C-STATE Tech:

And maybe we can all help.

regards,

infected_

[Electric Wizard]

Hi,

the best prolly would be to post a filled out template of your BIOS settings. maybe I overlooked some of your settings throughout the thread...however what are we supposed to recommend not knowing "where" you're stuck.

Ugh I sped through without posting my template I had it on my clipboard. inc.

[Raptor-X]

Ugh I sped through without posting my template I had it on my clipboard. inc.

What tool & technique are you using to capture all of the referenced BIOS data into the clipboard?

[Electric Wizard]

What tool & technique are you using to capture all of the referenced BIOS data into the clipboard?

Oh, nah I meant I had that template filled out and my intent was to cut and paste it and I hurried through it last night and didnt paste it on there from the word doc I had filled it out from.

[Electric Wizard]

Trying to get 4.4 stable from here

JumperFree Configuration Settings
AI Overclock tuner: X.M.P
CPU Ratio Setting: 21.0
Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech: Disabled
Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech:
BLCK Frequency: 200
PCIE Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: DDR3-1603
UCLK Frequency: Auto
QPI Link Data Rate: Auto

DRAM Timing Control:

1st Information :

CAS# Latency:
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 7
DRAM RAS# PRE Time: 7
DRAM RAS# ACT Time: 7
DRAM RAS# to RAS# Delay 20
DRAM REF Cycle Time: auto
DRAM Write Recovery Time:auto
DRAM Read to Precharge Time:auto
DRAM FOUR ACT WIN Time:auto
DRAM Back-To-Back CAS# Delay: auto

2nd Information :

DRAM Timing Mode:1n
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHA: auto
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHB: auto
DRAM Round Trip Latency on CHC: auto

3rd Information :

DRAM WRITE To READ Delay (DD): Auto
DRAM WRITE To READ Delay (DR):auto
DRAM WRITE To READ Delay (SR):auto
DRAM READ To WRITE Delay (DD):auto
DRAM READ To WRITE Delay (DR):auto
DRAM READ To WRITE Delay (SR):auto
DRAM READ To READ Delay (DD):auto
DRAM READ To READ Delay (DR):auto
DRAM READ To READ Delay (SR):auto
DRAM WRITE To WRITE Delay (DD):auto
DRAM WRITE To WRITE Delay (DR):auto
DRAM WRITE To WRITE Delay (SR):auto


CPU Voltage: 1.31875
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.80
QPI/DRAM Core Voltage: 1.25000
IOH Voltage: 1.10
IOH PCIE Voltage: 1.50
ICH Voltage: 1.10
ICH PCIE Voltage:1.50
DRAM Bus Voltage: 1.60
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA: auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHA:auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB:auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHB:auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC:auto
DRAM DATA REF Voltage on CHC:auto


Load Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Differential Amplitude: auto
CPU Clock Skew: auto
CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
IOH Clock Skew :auto
PCIE Spread Spectrum: auto


Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 21
C1E Suppport: enabled
Hardware Prefetcher: ebabled
Adjacent Cache Line Prefetch enabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: enabled
CPU TM Function: enabled
Execute Disable Bit: enabled
Intel (R) HT Techology: enabled
Active Processor Cores: all
A20M: disabled
Intel (R) SpeedStep (TM) Tech: disabled
Intel (R) Turbo Mode Tech: na
Intel (R) C-STATE Tech: na

[Burner27]

I just flashed my BIOS from 0610 to 0704 and now my HDD performance on my SSD went down 75MBs/Sec on writes......

[Amurtigress]

Hi Electric Wizard,

maybe I see something here that's not right.

Your RAM is running at 1600 MHz. That implies a UCLK of 3200.

ASUS' AUTO setting for the QPI voltage is 1.375V, which is also the Uncore voltage...

Your BIOS is set to 1.25V uncore.

I can tell that much, my 920 C0 requires at least 1.35V for 3200 and 1.4125-1.425V for good stability at 3400.

Are you SURE that your D0 920 takes that much less uncore/QPI voltage for stability? Seems unlikely to me...but possible.

Uncore clock is RAM clock x2 (or higher), and going towards 4.4 GHz means increasing the BCLK and uncore clock since the multiplier is maxed out.

[Burner27]

How does one flash back to an older BIOS? I can't seem to do it after upgrading to 0704.

Thx

[Electric Wizard]

Hi Electric Wizard,

maybe I see something here that's not right.

Your RAM is running at 1600 MHz. That implies a UCLK of 3200.

ASUS' AUTO setting for the QPI voltage is 1.375V, which is also the Uncore voltage...

Your BIOS is set to 1.25V uncore.

I can tell that much, my 920 C0 requires at least 1.35V for 3200 and 1.4125-1.425V for good stability at 3400.

Are you SURE that your D0 920 takes that much less uncore/QPI voltage for stability? Seems unlikely to me...but possible.

Uncore clock is RAM clock x2 (or higher), and going towards 4.4 GHz means increasing the BCLK and uncore clock since the multiplier is maxed out.

So far at my 4.2 OC ive had no stability issues even get through a 20 line run of LinX no problem maybe im lucky?

[dinos22]

Hi Electric Wizard,

maybe I see something here that's not right.

Your RAM is running at 1600 MHz. That implies a UCLK of 3200.

ASUS' AUTO setting for the QPI voltage is 1.375V, which is also the Uncore voltage...

Your BIOS is set to 1.25V uncore.

I can tell that much, my 920 C0 requires at least 1.35V for 3200 and 1.4125-1.425V for good stability at 3400.

Are you SURE that your D0 920 takes that much less uncore/QPI voltage for stability? Seems unlikely to me...but possible.

Uncore clock is RAM clock x2 (or higher), and going towards 4.4 GHz means increasing the BCLK and uncore clock since the multiplier is maxed out.

one of the improvements from C0 to D0 was specifically this....less VTT required for same OC

the other thing you have to understand is that even if you had an identical setup and you dont most likely volts could still differ for different OCs

[Electric Wizard]

one of the improvements from C0 to D0 was specifically this....less VTT required for same OC

the other thing you have to understand is that even if you had an identical setup and you dont most likely volts could still differ for different OCs

so then should I bump them up each a step at a time to get my 4.4 stable or do I have the entire basis of OCing misunderstood in my head arrgghhh hepl

[Amurtigress]

one of the improvements from C0 to D0 was specifically this....less VTT required for same OC

the other thing you have to understand is that even if you had an identical setup and you dont most likely volts could still differ for different OCs

Oh, I know that newer steppings require ess voltage, but with my 17 years of experience in building computers and overclocking, it is not every day that some voltages can be reduced that drastically without die-shrinking the whole chip. That's all.

And I am well aware of tolerances that can even add up, and the inclinations of the actual analogue signal behaviors. Overshoot, undershoot, and neccessity of delaying signals.

[Raptor-X]

Oh, I know that newer steppings require ess voltage, but with my 17 years of experience in building computers and overclocking, it is not every day that some voltages can be reduced that drastically without die-shrinking the whole chip. That's all.

And I am well aware of tolerances that can even add up, and the inclinations of the actual analogue signal behaviors. Overshoot, undershoot, and neccessity of delaying signals.

I am currently running a 960 D0 at 1.2 QPI for 3200MHz uncore on a P6T Deluxe V1. I assume that the uncore side of this chip is comparable with a 920 D0.

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[dinos22]

sarcasm hey
nice going buddy

[Electric Wizard]

Ok I am going to have to revert my questions to the basics because I am at a loss from where to go from where I am at.

From the BIOS specs I have posted what do I need to raise in order to get to 4.4 I think I might just have completely confused myself into thinking I know what im doing lol, so yeah any advice would help me a lot

[Amurtigress]

so then should I bump them up each a step at a time to get my 4.4 stable or do I have the entire basis of OCing misunderstood in my head arrgghhh hepl

Tendentially, yes. Your Uncore clock will go towards 3400... However, what effects do you get at 4.4 GHz? Sudden reboots/BSOD after 30 seconds up to 2 passes or so in Linx?

Maybe also the core voltage.

As for your confusion, to sum it up: The D0 steppings usually require less voltage on the core and uncore than the older C0s like mine. But no matter which stepping, higher clocks require more voltage. The best indicator (among others) for that is usually instability.

You might also want to set your Differential Amplitude to 700 or 800 mV.

[Electric Wizard]

Tendentially, yes. Your Uncore clock will go towards 3400... However, what effects do you get at 4.4 GHz? Sudden reboots/BSOD after 30 seconds up to 2 passes or so in Linx?

Maybe also the core voltage.

As for your confusion, to sum it up: The D0 steppings usually require less voltage on the core and uncore than the older C0s like mine. But no matter which stepping, higher clocks require more voltage. The best indicator (among others) for that is usually instability.

You might also want to set your Differential Amplitude to 700 or 800 mV.

Well at my 4.2 settings listed above I can run a 20 line run of LinX with no problems however, when I try to go 4.4 I raise my CPU voltage CPU PLL and my QPI/DRAM voltage slightly and I BSOD, also with XMP enabled it puts my DRAM bus voltage to 1.66 and gives me an ominous message. With my BSODS they are usually within the first line of a Full linuX run

[S1N3]

How does one flash back to an older BIOS? I can't seem to do it after upgrading to 0704.

Thx

You'll need a engineering version of afudos, posted on this very page. A bootable usb, and then save afudos and your prospective bios to the usb. Consult page 3-6 in the motherboard manual for the rest.

It would also be interesting to know how many folks with SSD's are having issues with bios 0704, seems now I'm not the only one. Anyways I don't believe flashing to the v1 bios has been much help, any additional clocks I hoped to attain by ridding myself of throttling have come at the expense of stability at the same voltages I used in 0006.

[dinos22]

so then should I bump them up each a step at a time to get my 4.4 stable or do I have the entire basis of OCing misunderstood in my head arrgghhh hepl

yeah you will need to mess with VTT, CPU Vcore, maybe dram volts as you are going tight

try OCing in smaller steps..... 4.2GHz is already very nice....try 4.3 first

[Electric Wizard]

yeah you will need to mess with VTT, CPU Vcore, maybe dram volts as you are going tight

try OCing in smaller steps..... 4.2GHz is already very nice....try 4.3 first

Cool thanks dinos, I was messing with it a little bit the past couple of hours so I think with some more fiddling and reading I should be able to get it perfect, where I am the weather is crap so I only get to overclock during winter time, so I want to take full advantage of it

[Burner27]

You'll need a engineering version of afudos, posted on this very page. A bootable usb, and then save afudos and your prospective bios to the usb. Consult page 3-6 in the motherboard manual for the rest.

It would also be interesting to know how many folks with SSD's are having issues with bios 0704, seems now I'm not the only one. Anyways I don't believe flashing to the v1 bios has been much help, any additional clocks I hoped to attain by ridding myself of throttling have come at the expense of stability at the same voltages I used in 0006.

I did get the engineering version of AFUDOS and I the 0610 bios, put them on my USB key which I made bootable and tried to flash the bios but it kept telling me that it could not open the file.

[dinos22]

guys look up Koda key

best way to flash back it works great