Quote Originally Posted by Daveburt714 View Post
Personally, I have high hopes for the C3 965's Titan...

My first Phenom was a 9500, I liked it, but looking back it was pretty pathetic..

Aside from the TLB thing, Phenoms have gotten better with every revision so far... The 940 (first C2) was actually a nice chip, and the 550 Unlocked was really hard to beat, most of them unlocked to Quads and did 3.6Ghz easily!
Not too shabby for a $100 CPU!

The fact that AMD put an NDA on a stepping revision is unusual and promising at the same time.....

I can't wait to get my hands on a C3... Will it match Intels offerings? I doubt it!

But will it be a good bang for the buck? Pretty sure it will!

Hopefully we only have a few weeks to go for C3 goodness!
I'm waiting with baited breath... (I know, not an attractive thought )

L8r.Dave
I hope they release with a under $200 price most likely it will, I wonder if 975 will be released around the same time?

Quote Originally Posted by gOtVoltage View Post
Ive always noticed a few Hundred MHZ Higher OC and Less Volts to do it. Thats Going from 140watt to 125watt..

The only time ive seen a 140watt counter part be better was My 9950 140watt . One of the few that out performed a 125watt counter part.. MHZ wise..(3.9ghz) In Fact I used a lot more power to get to 3.6ghz at the Same MHZ as a 9850 @ 3.6ghz and a huge amount more to pass a 9950 (125watt )when Oced above 3.8ghz

In most part the 125watt IMC will be better and allow more NB on the lower watts (newer and or same steppings). Its rare that a higher 140watt chip does better than new Lower 125TDP of same freqency(better batches/yields) . As batches improve the TDP improve with it in most cases.

Thus you can almost expect the few more MHZ in todays chips when going from 140watt to 125watt unless you get one with 6cores jk/k lol.

With C3 id keep around 1.6v or lower if your using High NB...That heat does build up fron NB especially when Gaming or Benching..Lower NB will help control that alot with any Phenom, but i know you already know that.
Every single Phenom Ive owned 9950/940/965 has been a 140w version So Ive never run a 125w cpu But I hope they follow the same pattern.

Hope 6 core is nice also hope performance doesnt start out like Phenom 1

So much stuff so little money