The official GT300/Fermi Thread

[saaya]

Nvidia needs to double down and split their hand. Make a dedicated PPU and make a seperate gpu. They can still support cuda on the gpu, just not make it the one and only thing its made for. That would free up silicon and make them competitive again. There is no point going in the direction there going right now because its a dead end. You cant be competitive in 3d graphics if your not making gpus.

totally agree!

does intel try to stuff lrb into their cpus?
of course not! but nvidia is basically stuffing their attempt at something like lrb into their gpu...

One can estimate ~33 mm^2 and 23 W for 256 DP-FMA units in Fermi.
http://forum.beyond3d.com/showpost.p...&postcount=539

only 23W? 0_o

nvidia has alienated both x86 licence holders, moved away from the chipset biz, ran into a wall with ion (intel not selling atoms without chipset + pineview coming) and put an awful lot of eggs in the GT300 basket. Everyone SHOULD WANT nvidia to succeed with Fermi. No other way around it. If it fails, we are screwed...

well even if it succeeds... then what? theres an expensive super vga that can run 2560x1600+ with 8aa or even 16aa... you need a 30" display for 1000$+... how does that produce enough income for nvidia to survive? what they really need is a gpu thats anywhere from slightly slower to faster than rv870 at the same or lower price... not a super fast chip that costs a lot more... im really confused why they dont just cut gt300 in half and have it almost immediatly after gt300s launch... it cant be that hard to scale down a big gpu...

well and then theres still tegra, but so far arm isnt taking off, and without arm taking off... tegra will have a hard time as well... and im curious how good it actually is compared to the integrated power vr chips arm usually integrates...

so, by adding features to their product that add value to more customers, they are going to fail?

if they sacrifice performance of what its actually meant for to get those features, and the features are only gimmicks, then yes...
would you think its a good idea for a ferrari to somehow sacrifice horse power to power a cokctail mixer inside the car? thats kinda what nvidia does with cuda...