Quote Originally Posted by MACMAC View Post
That would make this competition horrendously boring, and more than slightly redundant.

This has to be a balls to the wall affair, and those involved need to be able to achieve new benchmarking highs and amazing overclocking feats.

We can have a Fair Game/Mr.Rogers/We Are the World competition another day.
Exactly. Retail is unpredictable, we could all be benching at 4.8GHz-5.0GHz if the chips aren't pre-screened.

Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
That would be a very boring contest then, I would mod a CPU to be able to run SuperPI at 6.5Ghz, and kill the contest ...
I don t think Manufacturer should have a team, that make all of the other team irrelevant.
Even in F1, they have rules for weight , tires, gas, and so on.

In the case of CPUs, the possibilities to modify one of the 730millions set of transistor allow you an infinity combinaison of cheat that only the manufacturer can do, I did a demo to show this in the past.

Creating a contest with the 2 teams from Intel and AMD would give a chance to compete to 2 x 2 people. Nothing interesting... exactly when Renault was killing F1 in the 80s with Alain Prost ... or Ferrari in the 2000's ... make the race boring, you know who will win. Ross Braun team is demonstrating the perfect spirit right now in F1, new idea got him ahead, with smaller budget and no sponsor at the beginning. Because he is good, he got 1 sponsor, and kick the b.tt of Ferrari, Williams and all the big one ... F1 is interesting again because of this! they implemented rules recently to make sure that underdogs can have space to grow! you don t want an OC championchip that go the otherway around.

it is much more interesting and exciting when you see young kids coming and kicking the B.tt of the old timers Overclockers ... because they tried to understand the binning of the CPU, or they find out a little tricks! Who ever does its home work better should be able to win!

Francois
... have you read anything everyone else has written or do you have global ignore enabled? We aren't asking for stupid chips that clock to unimaginable frequencies. All the majority of us want are EQUAL CHIPS. You talk of regulation, THAT IS WHAT WE WANT! If we have everyone using retail chips I guarantee you there will be results all over the place, Core i7 is like a crapshoot. Even if you pre-bin a series of chips and CHARGE US it would be better than having everyone hunting through retail stores blowing money that could be spent on cooling. We already do this with HWBot, the point was to make this event different and over the top.

Francois Cliff Notes:
We want regulation
We want chips that have been pre-screened/binned/regulated to perform close to each other.
We don't want to know who has the biggest wallet or best chip source, we want the event to be fun.


I might be an ass at times but I believe I understand the fun this could be, even as a spectator, and I'm going to be as loud as I can be to see that this happens.


and in closing..
Quote Originally Posted by Drwho? View Post
Who ever does its home work better should be able to win!

Francois
EXACTLY! The fictitious kid you speak of shouldn't be trying to figure out why his Core i7 975 won't do 5.1GHz on LN2.

also, if someone thinks I should shut up for slamming on Francois, let me know and management will take it under consideration