Elpida Hyper Graveyard

[Bootsy]

Kingston HyperX cl8 DDR3-2000 bought 2 kits from Newegg in April,

Running 12GB 2 kits one died

1.) How did the memory die?
not sure, started getting random memory related blue screens

2.) What exactly happened?
booted one day and blue screens started.
ran memtest on each found bad stick immediately.

3.) What board, pcb rev and bios version did you use?
Classified 760

4.) What speed and timings did you run the memory at when it died?
12gb DDR3-1975, 7-8-7-20

5.) what speed and timings did you run the memory at most of the time?
same as above

6.) What vtt did you run when the memory died?
1.35


7.) what vtt did you run the memory at most of the time?
1.35

Rma to Kingston got a new pair back in 4 days.So far so good running 12gb again.

[tripgood]

Corsair Dominator GT 3x2 2000 7-8-7 Kit died 10 weeks after purchase.

1&2) Don't remember if i was browsing or gaming but definitely not OC testing. Crashed with blue screen.

3) BloodRage I think P06

4) Running 5:1 211bclk 2100 7-8-7 1t for 10 weeks.

5) This was my stable OC for everyday use.

6) VTT 1.54 on a C0 chip, 1.72vdimm max. I think this may be significant. D0 chip requires much less vtt as everyone is aware.

7) 1.54 was everday vtt.

I have evidence that at least 1 stick had chip degradation before failing completely. When the blue screen first appeared, I lowered the freq to 4:1 1688 @211 bclk and the board operated normally for 1 week at those settings. It would not boot at my former settings. I lowered the vtt slightly but can't remember how much.
After 1 week the board would not boot at any settings. I tried the sticks in 2 Classifieds and DFI board with the same result.

New kit should be here in a couple of days. I plan on using them @5:1 but with 1.35 vtt with a D0 and see how they do.

[drnip]

Kingston HyperX 3GB DDR3 2000 KHX16000D3ULT1K3/3GX

1. Dunno why or how it happened.
2. One month of ownership and 1 of the 3 sticks shat itself. I turned my computer off working and went on vacation for 5 days to Vegas & Grand Canyon, came back and turned on my computer just for it to keep BSOD'ing on the Windows boot screen. Ran Memtest and the one stick threw more errors than I have ever seen a stick thrown.
3. DFI UT X58-T3eH8 - rev 1 - 5/08
4. 1600 CL6 7-6-18 1T
5. 1600 CL6 7-6-18 1T to 2000 CL7 8-7-20 1T
6. 1.23v
7. 1.23v to 1.39v. 1.23v everyday cruising with a 4ghz CPU clock up to 1.39v benching.

Ordered some Mushkin Ascent DDR3 2000's last week. Going to give them a run for their money.

[kiwi]

saaya owns so many graveyards, you must like this business

On the topic, is there any Elpida hyper that has survived more than 2 weeks and is still running fine daily?

[eva2000]

Kiwi, my Corsair GT 2000C7 >3-4 months still going strong

I have a set of kingston 2000 c8's from the first batch newegg sold (when everyone thought it was a pricing error).

Set arrived "half dead" meaning 2 of 3 sticks worked perfectly (1050+ c7) but the third wouldnt even do 2000c7 (at normal voltages <1.7vdimm, <1.4vtt). After giving them 1.8vdimm/1.45vtt @ 2000c7 benching the "half dead" stick completely died.

Tested on REX48 (found the half dead stick), and classified (doing the benching that killed it).

Cpuz detects 6GB/3 sticks, but windows/etc only sees 4GB/2 sticks. Will be RMA'ing soon

FYI, my 6GB Kingston are from same first newegg.com batch as it was part of the massive purchase Andre made when they came up at that very cheap price on newegg.com.

[TheKarmakazi]

Kiwi, my Corsair GT 2000C7 >3-4 months still going strong


FYI, my 6GB Kingston are from same first newegg.com batch as it was part of the massive purchase Andre made when they came up at that very cheap price on newegg.com.

Yeah those kits were either golden or garbage, too bad we got the latter

[xpatar]

There seem to be at least half a dozen cases of dead elpida hyper based sticks that died nowhere near the known danger zone north of 2v but at a measly 1.65-1.75v... if you are one of the poor b4stards who had one of those sweet sticks roll over and die, please post as many details about it in this thread so we can find out whats causing it, and hopefully prevent it from happening in future

If this happened to you with samsung based memory or any other memory chip or you are not sure what chips your sticks use, but they also died at low vdimm, please post your experience here as well, it might not be an elpida hyper problem after all...

please answer as many of the questions below, ideally all of them:
Just quote this post and then add your reply under each question

1.) How did the memory die? Idle, load, reboot?
2.) What exactly happened? freeze, errors, crash, system turned off, system rebooted, blue screen, black screen
3.) What board, pcb rev and bios version did you use?
4.) What speed and timings did you run the memory at when it died?
5.) what speed and timings did you run the memory at most of the time?
6.) What vtt did you run when the memory died?
7.) what vtt did you run the memory at most of the time?

CORSAIR TR3X6G1866C7GTF kit

1) How did the memory died?
Stress testing with linx max mem usage.
2) What exactly happened?
The system rebooted.
3) What board, pcb rev and bios version did you use?
ASUS P5T DELUXE V2, bios v.0502
4) What speed and timings did you run the memory at when it died?
@1866, 7-8-7-20-2T 1.64v
5) What speed and timings did you run the memory at most of the time?
@1866, 7-8-7-20-2T 1.64v
6) What vtt did you run when the memory died?
@ 1.475v (auto)
7) what vtt did you run the memory at most of the time?
@ 1.475v (auto)

The kit worked fine for the first 4 days, then started rebooting randomly. While stress testing with linx I lost one memory module, the system recognized only 4 GB of the six installed. After that it stopped booting. I discovered that it was due to one dead memory module. It didn't work no matter in which memory slot I put it. The other two modules worked just fine. I used DOA and now I'm working with a new kit. So far no problems.

[tripgood]

saaya owns so many graveyards, you must like this business

On the topic, is there any Elpida hyper that has survived more than 2 weeks and is still running fine daily?

My OCZ Blade 3x2 2000 7-8-7 kit is running strong 8 weeks.

[chew*]

Kingtons 3x1g first set dead after some memtest.

Second set 3x1g works fine I believe msimax has them up for sale now as we can attain the same speeds binning cheap D9 GTR/S in 2x1g variants....

3x2g kit on the way will update at a later time.....

[saaya]

My Gskill was dead on arrival but my Blade and GT kits died after 2 months 24/24 Saaya.

what vdimm?
did you stress test them a lot with memtest or play games for a long time?

if yes, then its bad news that they failed after 2 months... so that means even sticks that seem good for months can fail randomly... mhhh

I cannot remember the details of each incident but ONE stick is either half-dead (POST ok at bclock 133MHz only) or dead on Classified mobo @1.78 - 1.87Vdimm within a couple days.

2 kits of Corsair GT C7 3x2G (half dead): 1st set right after the first LN2 benching & 2nd set arrived half-dead

1 kit of OCZ Blade 3x2G (dead): Right after the first LN2 benching

2 kits of SanMax CL9 3x2G (half dead): during air testing for both kits

wow... sorry for all your losses fredyama-sensei!
damn thats a lot of sticks... and whats up with all those DOAs?
it seems that over the past year the amount of memory DOAs has skyrocketed... could it be that shops just put refurbished kits back on the shelves? makes sense, its probably a lot of hassle to test all kits or rma them to the manufacturer and wait for them to come back, plus it costs shipping and takes time... but geez, its almost like you have to buy two kits now to be 100% sure you got a working set of 3 sticks from what im hearing here...

so when benching with high vdimm it seems the sticks fail very fast and almost instantly, but even at low vdimm they degrade or fail after some time... sounds like serious chip issues at elpida...

really good thread i have a kit on elpida non-hypers die on me no idea if those count

are those the same chips and just binned diferently?
if yes, then it seems you have the same issue...
im actually a bit out of the loop about the latest chips...

Bootsy, wow, 12gb at near 2k cas7, thats sweet!
so after how much time did the stick go belly up? around 1-2 months?
did you torture it a lot with memtest or benching or gaming?

tripgood, you got 2 classifieds and a dfi and a br? daymmmm man!

saaya owns so many graveyards, you must like this business

On the topic, is there any Elpida hyper that has survived more than 2 weeks and is still running fine daily?

heheh, actually this is only the third, and well, nobody else seems to start any graveyard topics... personally i think this is the most important information we need to exchange about hardware, when and how does it die... to me thats more important than how high some parts clock... cause whats the point if it dies a week after setting a new record?

im really surprised and actually a bit worried over how this thread exploded in half a day to two pages with some people losing several sticks... i didnt know things were that bad... plus all the doa stuff... though i suspect the doa is people having a dead stick and just sending it back to newegg instead of rmaing it, and newegg puts it back on the shelf instead of rmaing it...

anyhow, i think tomorrow i will collect the lifetime of the sticks, i hope that theres a certain time that, once the sticks surivive past that, you can be pretty sure they are fine, at least most likely...

thanks for all the feedback everybody!

[cdawall]

@saaya i believe they are just binned differently and i posted what happened with mine in the 1st post now

[Shiranui Gen-An]

Wow, this stuff sounds more fragile than Micron RevD DDR2 ICs.

[saaya]

yes, sounds exactly like the problems micron d9gmh/gkx had, but this is much much worse apparently...
the failure rates seem much higher with the elpida chips, especially the most recent batches apparently

[TheKarmakazi]

I figured this thread needed some cheering up after so many of us have lost good mem kits



EDIT: My photochop skillz are so ub3r 1337!

[tripgood]

yes, sounds exactly like the problems micron d9gmh/gkx had, but this is much much worse apparently...
the failure rates seem much higher with the elpida chips, especially the most recent batches apparently

I would like to see the difference in failures with people who were using C0 chips as opposed to D0 when their kits failed. IMC functions much better with D0 chip @ less vtt IMO.

[pinto]

what vdimm?
did you stress test them a lot with memtest or play games for a long time?

if yes, then its bad news that they failed after 2 months... so that means even sticks that seem good for months can fail randomly... mhhh

Lot of games and few max memory tests, never use more than 1.75v and 1.6v for daily/game use.

[chew*]

I would like to see the difference in failures with people who were using C0 chips as opposed to D0 when their kits failed. IMC functions much better with D0 chip @ less vtt IMO.

I fail to see your point......I don't even use intel and we had a failure during memtest....I doubt its the IMC's to blame.

[Xtreme Addict]

1. Adata EE 1800 3x2 8-8-8-24 1.65-1.85v Elpida Hyper (I took off HS)

One stick dead, no boot at all. Some tests on Rampage II Gene if I remember correctly. VTT ~ 1.4v max, VDIMM ~ 1.65-1.8v. Died during overclocking all on AC.


1.) How did the memory die?
no boot
2.) What exactly happened?
Please refer above
3.) What board, pcb rev and bios version did you use?
Rampage II Gene, bios 0809
4.) What speed and timings did you run the memory at when it died?
1600 8-8-8-24 because GENE doesn't like Elpida Hyper and does not clock it well
5.) what speed and timings did you run the memory at most of the time?
New set, never tested, but other sticks in Dual Channel on Rampage II Extreme do 2000 7-8-7-21 @ 1.85v
6.) What vtt did you run when the memory died?
1.375-1.4v
7.) what vtt did you run the memory at most of the time?
I can't say because it's only review sample

Kingston HyperX 2000 CAS8 3x2 Elpida Hyper

One stick died after 10 minutes during installing OS. Booted at 1333 1.5v 9-9-9-24. But before installing OS on SmackOver DX58SO I put it into DFI X58 UT and ran at 1333 CAS9 1.5v and VTT default.

1.) How did the memory die?
no boot
2.) What exactly happened?
Please refer above
3.) What board, pcb rev and bios version did you use?
SmackOver DX58SO, BIOS SO4014P
4.) What speed and timings did you run the memory at when it died?
1333 CAS9 1.5v and VTT default.
5.) what speed and timings did you run the memory at most of the time?
New set, never tested, but other sticks in Dual Channel on Rampage II Extreme do 2000 7-8-7-21 @ 1.8v
6.) What vtt did you run when the memory died?
1.1-1.2v default
7.) what vtt did you run the memory at most of the time?
I can't say because it's only review sample

has anybody tried to revive his dead stick by putting it into the freezer?
this helps with most dead micron sticks, at least temporarily.... if that helps with the elpida chips as well then its most likely a silicon bonding/packaging problem...

I tried, put ADATA and Kingston into DICE and it didn't help.

Corsair DOM GT 1866 CAS7 3x2 directly from Bachus are working 4 months or more without any issue on the same motherboards: SmackOver, R2E, R2 GENE, EVGA X58 SLI, DFI X58 UT, Gigabyte X58 UD5... with voltages VTT 1.2-1.8v, VMEM 1.5v - 1.95v

[tripgood]

I fail to see your point......I don't even use intel and we had a failure during memtest....I doubt its the IMC's to blame.

I doubt the imc is to blame also the more i think of it. I don't think a correlation between C0 and D0 user mem failures is relevant since early Elpida Hypers were with C0 only. Random failures would seem to point to a failed binning process at some point in the manufacturing process.

[k.b.san.um]

Corsair Dominator GT 2000 8-8-8-24

1.) How did the memory die?
Playing 3D games like Crysis/GRID

2.) What exactly happened?
Bluescreen. Rebooted and only 2GB was recognized. Tested each stick individually found two sticks dead.

3.) What board, pcb rev and bios version did you use?
Foxconn Bloodrage bios G25

4.) What speed and timings did you run the memory at when it died?
1530 6-6-6-16 2T 1.5v

5.) what speed and timings did you run the memory at most of the time?
1530 6-6-6-16 2T 1.5v - 2000MHz 8-8-8-20 1.65v

6.) What vtt did you run when the memory died?
~1.3v

7.) what vtt did you run the memory at most of the time?
1.3 - 1.52v

[westsider]

i have bought kingston hyper 2000 3gb 8-8-8 kit
only one day was Ok with stock settings and 1.65Vdimm/1.35VTT

after that only 11-11-10 boots


1.) How did the memory die?
boot but with very bad timings
2.) What exactly happened?
nothing espacial
3.) What board, pcb rev and bios version did you use?
DFI X58 UT
4.) What speed and timings did you run the memory at when it died?
2000 8-8-8-24
5.) what speed and timings did you run the memory at most of the time?
stock speed and once 2280 7-8-7 1.75V
6.) What vtt did you run when the memory died?
1.375-1.4v
7.) what vtt did you run the memory at most of the time?
1.38-1.5

Kingston HyperX 2000 CAS8 3x1 Elpida Hyper

[Mescalamba]

Seems they usually die in some stress testing.. which indicates manufacturing problems. Simply, they are badly made.. Other tough, it seems that G.Skills survive longer than others, so they either have better batches, or PCB is made with taking fragilty of this chips in mind.

I wouldn't like being in Elpida skin or some ram company, which must now RMA like every second kit with those chips..

Micron FTW. (anyone killed D9GTR yet?)

[Star_Hunter]

Has anyone had any Mushkin kits die? (I didnt just wondering)

Also have most of you bought them from newegg? Some seem to think many of these kits were abused and then returned back to newegg and then bought again by other people which could lead to dead chips if the last owner was running much higher voltage.

[Mescalamba]

Has anyone had any Mushkin kits die? (I didnt just wondering)

Also have most of you bought them from newegg? Some seem to think many of these kits were abused and then returned back to newegg and then bought again by other people which could lead to dead chips if the last owner was running much higher voltage.

I kinda doubt, that newegg would do such a thing.. that would damage their reputation badly.

I haven't seen anyone with Mushkin based on Elpida so far.. Which is interesting, cause they are quite good and cheap. At least, I haven't problems with Mushkins.

[chew*]

Micron FTW. (anyone killed D9GTR yet?)

Micron is tricky......but the most important factor is micron d9 gtr can not do these speeds in 2gig modules.

If your fancy is running tight like me 1720 6-6-5-15-11, your not gonna do so at reasonable volts.....not even after binning 3 sets of some of the best stuff out there....and they will degrade.

My set used to pull 6-5-5 but bsod'd while running 32m PI and never ran 6-5-5 again.

Lets not mention that I can get anyway with alot more voltage than most of the intel guys can for extended periods of time.....

Best bet is GTR/GTS 1g modules for 2d and elpida is really the only game in town for 2gig modules and 3d benching, if attemtping to run tight latencies at rather tight timings....