I7 Waterblocks Version3

**BringerOdeath** · 03-15-2009, 04:55 PM

The fins are so deep on the 350, no wonder it has so much higher restriction and good heat transfer!!

**Martinm210** · 03-15-2009, 04:57 PM

Nice pics...thanks!

What about the base of the HK3,

Someone was saying the finish is only machined finished (IE...no lapping). Is that right? What about bowing, any bow to that one?
Thanks!
Martin

**blinker0** · 03-15-2009, 05:02 PM

I have ti H/K v3 LT and the base isnt bowed on mine

**nebuchanezzar** · 03-15-2009, 05:07 PM

Machined finish, it is not mirror smooth on the one I received, ie did not appear lapped. And like the above poster, no bowing to the blocks base.

**Hondacity** · 03-15-2009, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by inonefly

the HK CU looks huge! whats the thickness of it?

i dunno..sorry

Originally Posted by BringerOdeath

The fins are so deep on the 350, no wonder it has so much higher restriction and good heat transfer!!

the fins are taller...more area in contact with water

look at the poor gtz...and they say that koolance copied the gtz..

Originally Posted by Martinm210

Nice pics...thanks!

What about the base of the HK3,

Someone was saying the finish is only machined finished (IE...no lapping). Is that right? What about bowing, any bow to that one?
Thanks!
Martin

good to hear from you, its not lapped, bestest surface finish is the koolance350 followed by the ek's

and yeah its not bowed...

i'm finishing the flowrates...and i have to say..the hk is like the fuzionv2

hmmmm base pics..thats gonna be challenging with my point and shoot..

they're all shiny

Originally Posted by blinker0

I have ti H/K v3 LT and the base isnt bowed on mine

yep thats how i see it too..

**Ozzfest05** · 03-15-2009, 05:10 PM

I would really like to see test with the HK 3.0 up against the GTZ on socket 775

**Hybridchemistry** · 03-15-2009, 08:04 PM

Originally Posted by Ozzfest05

I would really like to see test with the HK 3.0 up against the GTZ on socket 775

+1366

**Hondacity** · 03-15-2009, 09:04 PM

hk v3 base pics added

**Hondacity** · 03-15-2009, 09:37 PM

i dunno..i just wish it were polished...thanks for appreciating the lumix's output

...i'm soo tempted to buy a dslr..but i don't really take pictures that much.

**Power_VANO** · 03-15-2009, 09:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hondacity

the fins are taller...more area in contact with water

look at the poor gtz...and they say that koolance copied the gtz..

So Koolance is better designed GTZ

Let's wait for results and then see if it's time for Swifty to release new WB

I am quite interested how old GTZ stands against newer blocks.

**Hondacity** · 03-15-2009, 09:56 PM

yeah...thats a whole different hobby...heck pixcetera.com

already shows how infinite the possibilities are in photography, thats not me

**Hondacity** · 03-15-2009, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Power_VANO

So Koolance is better designed GTZ

Let's wait for results and then see if it's time for Swifty to release new WB

I am quite interested how old GTZ stands against newer blocks.

sorry to burst your bubble...but the koolance is very different, center inlet, circular, high restriction

anyways...gtz vs koolance350
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...39&postcount=1

version3 is still incomplete, but i'm working on it...

**scamps** · 03-16-2009, 07:39 AM

Not to waist time - HESmelaugh already did some testing with i7 (the graphs are international, I guess

):

http://www.dexgo.com/index.php?site=...ardware&id=356

Because I (as a layman) already tested the Koolance against the Heatkiller on my 775 (and found the Heatkiller being much better than the Koolance) I am really anxious to see your results

**HESmelaugh** · 03-16-2009, 07:55 AM

I'm lagging behind on the conversation here a little...

About the non-lapped HK base: Do you think it would improve performance if the base were lapped and polished? What if it were done by hand?
I'm thinking I could lap the base of my HK and test before and after.

**Hondacity** · 03-16-2009, 08:02 AM

Originally Posted by HESmelaugh

I'm lagging behind on the conversation here a little...

About the non-lapped HK base: Do you think it would improve performance if the base were lapped and polished? What if it were done by hand?
I'm thinking I could lap the base of my HK and test before and after.

you know we want it...

go for it!!!

**Nickel020** · 03-16-2009, 08:24 AM

Originally Posted by Martinm210

Nice pics...thanks!

What about the base of the HK3,

Someone was saying the finish is only machined finished (IE...no lapping). Is that right? What about bowing, any bow to that one?
Thanks!
Martin

I checked my HK 3.0 CU as well and the base is very flat, it's "better" than my EK Supreme LT and no comparison to a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme. My "old" EK Supreme also has a slight bow (less than the TRUE but a little more than the LT), so it is "worse" than the HK if you consider bowed to be a bad thing. The HK is also better than my Fuzion V1, which has a slight bow similar to the EK Supreme.
I used a proper straight edge to check this btw.

Whatever process they use to finish the base seems to be good, at least it's better than my other blocks. It's not a mirror finish, but it's definitely flatter than the other blocks that I have.

Edit:

Originally Posted by HESmelaugh

I'm lagging behind on the conversation here a little...

About the non-lapped HK base: Do you think it would improve performance if the base were lapped and polished? What if it were done by hand?
I'm thinking I could lap the base of my HK and test before and after.

I compared it to my old lapped E6300 and I don't think you can do a better job than what the HK 3.0 already has. You can give it a mirror finish, but flatness (or the geometry of a bow) is much more important than that I think, so the difference should be marginal.

Edit2: I'll reply to your PM at the LUXX later Shane, I was thinking about it yesterday but then I got distracted and forgot about it...

**Power_VANO** · 03-16-2009, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by Hondacity

sorry to burst your bubble...but the koolance is very different, center inlet, circular, high restriction

anyways...gtz vs koolance350
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...39&postcount=1

version3 is still incomplete, but i'm working on it...

Of course 350 is different design, I joked about the "better one"

**SAE** · 03-16-2009, 03:26 PM

*push* Results?

Ordered me a HK V3 LT... my phasechanger sucks w/i7 at the moment. Needs some modding goodness or such...

**Hondacity** · 03-17-2009, 06:57 AM

I've already started with the hk3, and first mount was a dud, the base being so big sat on the capacitors of my multiphase vrms. So its working in one direction.

GB x58 extreme users be warned. Well the thermal performance was something i was expecting. but stay tuned i got 25 mounts to do

**pump setup on post#1

**rioja** · 03-17-2009, 07:10 AM

why 25?
and waht thermopaste do u use, mx-2?

**MpG** · 03-17-2009, 07:13 AM

Five mounts/block, I'm guessing... very nice. Looking forwards to seeing the results!

**rioja** · 03-17-2009, 07:22 AM

but there are 6 blocks
well maybe 6x5=30 mounts but 5 mounts already done

**Camaroz06** · 03-17-2009, 07:52 AM

anyone have any idea if the HK can fit either way on a EVGA X58?

**nebuchanezzar** · 03-17-2009, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by HESmelaugh

I'm lagging behind on the conversation here a little...

About the non-lapped HK base: Do you think it would improve performance if the base were lapped and polished? What if it were done by hand?
I'm thinking I could lap the base of my HK and test before and after.

Please do

Originally Posted by Nickel020

I checked my HK 3.0 CU as well and the base is very flat, it's "better" than my EK Supreme LT and no comparison to a Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme. My "old" EK Supreme also has a slight bow (less than the TRUE but a little more than the LT), so it is "worse" than the HK if you consider bowed to be a bad thing. The HK is also better than my Fuzion V1, which has a slight bow similar to the EK Supreme.
I used a proper straight edge to check this btw.

Whatever process they use to finish the base seems to be good, at least it's better than my other blocks. It's not a mirror finish, but it's definitely flatter than the other blocks that I have.

I agree, on first look I wasn't so impressed but when it came time to install it yesterday I gave it a better look. While it isn't mirror shiny it is extremely flat. I don't have a machinists grade tool to use but my vernier caliper is straight enough and the base is perfectly flat...to my caliper anyways.
That said, as long as the lapping job was done very well I don't think it could hurt it's performance but it may not make as big of a difference as I first thought.

Originally Posted by Hondacity

I've already started with the hk3, and first mount was a dud, the base being so big sat on the capacitors of my multiphase vrms. So its working in one direction.

GB x58 extreme users be warned. Well the thermal performance was something i was expecting. but stay tuned i got 25 mounts to do

**pump setup on post#1

Ya, the direction sheet warns that you may need to mount it 90* off from standard on X58 boards. I had to on my DFI DK because of those caps near the backplate area.
Looking forward to your final result

.

**generics_user** · 03-17-2009, 08:35 AM

Originally Posted by Camaroz06

anyone have any idea if the HK can fit either way on a EVGA X58?

afaik it fits on every 775 and i7 board out there, you may need to turn it by 90° but this doesn't hurt the performance

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