AMD To Crank Up Phenom II Clock-Speeds Upto 3.50 GHz, Planning New Models

[Zucker2k]

Now what does Intel do to solve this... What could they possibly do to cool both an E8400 and a QX9770.... If only they could have different stock coolers depending on the CPU...

Oh wait, they do. And that's exactly what AMD would do. Bundle a slightly bigger cooler with a slightly bigger fan to handle slightly bigger heat load.

But you're not interested in logic or optimism, you're into putting people down and rambling incoherently against AMD half the time. So have fun, accomplishing whatever it is you believe you will. All I see is someone who can't stop beating a dead horse.

WTF!? You just said the same thing I said, and you think you're criticizing me? Refer to my comment about the TRUE. This is the problem when people lose all sense of objectivity. So far, ALL the people who have made reference to 3.4-3.6Ghz with stock volts are using the TRUE or equivalent hsf. Forget the fact that their ambients are way better (we're in winter after all) than a user in Namibia (Javier, I had to borrow that one, ) ), so technically speaking, for AMD to release a PHII at 3.5Ghz even IF they manage to keep the stock vcc pegged to 1.35v, they'll have to test in about 35c ambient with whatever cooler they bundle the processor with. God forbid this piece of news comes from someone other than a perceived AMD fanboy. This is getting ridiculous; in my book you lose all credibility if you can't argue without attacking your opponent.

I did post a ss of my Q9650 overclocked to 4.5Ghz with ONLY 1.360v. It does 4Ghz stable with 1.240v (way below Intel recommended max voltage of 1.3625v) YET NO ONE HAS SAID INTEL CAN RELEASE A 4GHZ PROCESSOR RIGHT NOW. Because, I realise that this same processor would perform different and need higher voltages with the stock cooler in Namibia.