Quote Originally Posted by Zucker2k View Post
But AMD put such supposition (read tested thermal operating thresholds) into its TDP rating. Bottom line, IF AMD could release a 4Ghz chip today, I bet you a million bucks, they would. The same goes for Intel, and they (c2Q at least) overclock/tolerate heat better with stock cooler, than PHII.

Wasn't PII supposed to have a 300c+ thermal operating envelope (-180+ - 125?

Show me a PHII priming at 90c. I can show you my C2Q oc to 4Ghz priming at 90c.
Hello dear AMD hater, as you might very well know, temperature does not really play significant role when it comes to stability unless the CPU is unstable already due to too low vCore. That means, if it can't prime @ 90C, bump the vCore and it can. ... ran Orthos for 2 hours w/o fan since cat ate the fan wires, temps +100C, fully stable @ stock.

I am sure you knew this, thus I wonder why did you post it? My theory: "My C2Q is better.". Prove me wrong, if you can.