Quote Originally Posted by Particle View Post
Considering the voltage difference, I don't think you can really put forth that supposition.
But AMD put such supposition (read tested thermal operating thresholds) into its TDP rating. Bottom line, IF AMD could release a 4Ghz chip today, I bet you a million bucks, they would. The same goes for Intel, and they (c2Q at least) overclock/tolerate heat better with stock cooler, than PHII.

Wasn't PII supposed to have a 300c+ thermal operating envelope (-180+ - 125?

Show me a PHII priming at 90c. I can show you my C2Q oc to 4Ghz priming at 90c.