DFI LP UT X58-T3EH8 - First bench, bios screens etc

[mean6]

So, that can only be done using Nvidia cards then, right?

[Viss]

Yes. With win7 you can use nvidia card to do physix while running Ati card in ther slot though.

[rioja]

Back to PWM cooling again. Will mosfet watercool block from X38 be compatible with X58?
I have MIPS block already, but they have on their site this about compatibility:

- DFI LANPARTY UT P35 T2R
- DFI LANPARTY LT P35 T2R
- DFI LANPARTY LT X38 T2R
- DFI LANPARTY UT X38 T3R
- DFI LANPARTY UT X48 T2R
- DFI LANPARTY LT X48 T2R
- DFI LANPARTY UT X58-T3eH8 >> need REV. 2

What does it mean, mosfets on X58 are different from P35, X38, X48?

Eva,
on 1 page you have few pics from backside with backplates? Were all those backplates preinstalled by DFI?

Also, may someone pls measure dimension between memory sticks in slots 1 and 5, 1 and 6?

[Grinch]

good question...is there a current mosfet/nb/sb waterblock solution?

[eva2000]

Eva,
on 1 page you have few pics from backside with backplates? Were all those backplates preinstalled by DFI?

Also, may someone pls measure dimension between memory sticks in slots 1 and 5, 1 and 6?

distance between dimm slot 1 and 5 and 1 and 6 you mean ?

the backplates are preinstalled by DFI

[Viss]

At last time to play with the DFI and another i920, its better then me old chip

[eva2000]

nice that's better than mine which needs 1.328-1.344v for that with TRUE120 air

what cooling ? batch ?

[Viss]

Its with TRUE and 60 cfm fan in 20 deg C room. Batch: 3835A804. Only ran prime to compare it to me old one, hope it wil like high clocks like your golden week 36 You primed at 21x191 or 20x200 fror 4ghz? 20x200 seems to need more volts.

[eva2000]

done prime at 19x211 as well as 20x200 fine same vcore

[jcool]

I hate you eva, you lucky SOB
I tried 5 i7 CPUs so far, and none liked even multipliers (always needed like +0,1V Vcore at same Mhz).

On another note, I just called Michael Franke vom Mips (sorry guys, totally forgot about that) and asked what the dfiference was between the Rev. 2 and the "old" PWM freezer. Well like I said, the PWMs are unchanged, 100% identical to the X38/X48 UT/LT. But it seems DFI set the 8pin 12V connector slightly different on the x58, which means you'll have to cut off a few mm of the older PWM freezer to make it fit, but he said it wouldn't be a problem. So if you already have the Rev. 1 freezer just mod it, otherwise go get the new one (it's just a bit smaller at the outer edge, otherwise identical).

[rioja]

distance between dimm slot 1 and 5 and 1 and 6 you mean ?

the backplates are preinstalled by DFI

Yes, may you say this distance? I am trying to understand if my memory cooler will be suitable at 3 or 6 sticks config.
And how do you think, if I going to use waterblock for CPU, do I need to use additional backplate? Or those comes with the board would be enough?

On another note, I just called Michael Franke vom Mips (sorry guys, totally forgot about that) and asked what the dfiference was between the Rev. 2 and the "old" PWM freezer. Well like I said, the PWMs are unchanged, 100% identical to the X38/X48 UT/LT. But it seems DFI set the 8pin 12V connector slightly different on the x58, which means you'll have to cut off a few mm of the older PWM freezer to make it fit, but he said it wouldn't be a problem. So if you already have the Rev. 1 freezer just mod it, otherwise go get the new one (it's just a bit smaller at the outer edge, otherwise identical).

This is very good news, thanks alot! After all that I did with my poor case, it's just nothing to cut a few mm.

So the last question in watercooling would be what to use for NB (and what distance between mounting holes) and would be passive cooling for SB enough?
Where may I find foto of the naked board, without stock cooling?

[eva2000]

Yes, may you say this distance? I am trying to understand if my memory cooler will be suitable at 3 or 6 sticks config.
And how do you think, if I going to use waterblock for CPU, do I need to use additional backplate? Or those comes with the board would be enough?

IIRC Swiftech recommends addition backplate, so get Swiftech Apogee GTZ if you can

Dimm slot distance measurements:

• Distance between each of the 3 channels (1 green + 1 yellow) is ~3.5mm
• Distance between dimm slot 2 and dimm slot 4 with Corsair Domainator DDR3-2133 modules installed is ~14mm
• Distance between dimm slot 1's retention lever and dimm slot 5's retention lever is ~50mm
• Approximate dimm slot width capacity up to ~7.2mm - so that's how wide your memory modules can be in terms of thickness of heatspreader with modules side by side i.e. 6x1GB or 6x2GB configurations
• Corsair Domaintor DDR3-2133 heatspreader thickness ~6mm
• G.Skill PC3-12800HZ heatspreader thickness ~7mm

[rusty]

hi eva2000 what's your idle core temps @ 2.6ghz ?

[eva2000]

depending on room ambient between 33-43C idle according to realtemp 2.90. Room temps can vary between 22C to 34C heh

First time mismatched 6x1GB triple channel. Still manages to accomodate my push 120x38mm thick Scythe UltraKaze 2000rpm fan with memory module installed in dimm slot 1

System specs

• Intel Core i7 920 3836A756
• Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme + LGA1366 Bolt Thru kit + 2x 120x38mm Scythe UltraKaze 2000rpm 87cfm fans in push/pull
• DFI LP UT X58-T3EH8 R.A51 - 01/23 beta bios
• 128MB Gainward FX5200 PCI
• Ram cooling: 3x 60x25mm Sunon 23.5cfm Maglev fans
• 80GB Hitachi 7K80 SATAII
• Pioneer DVD-RW
• 1KW Corsair HX1000 psu
• WinXP Pro SP3 full nLite updated hotfixes / Windows 7 beta dual boot

Memory configuration:

• Dimm slot #1: 1GB G.Skill PC3-12800HZ (Samsung HCF0)
• Dimm slot #2: 1GB Corsair DDR3-2133C9DF Dominator (Samsung HCF0)
• Dimm slot #3: 1GB Cellshock PC3-14400 (Micron D9GTR)
• Dimm slot #4: 1GB Corsair DDR3-2133C9DF Dominator (Samsung HCF0)
• Dimm slot #5: 1GB Cellshock PC3-14400 (Micron D9GTR)
• Dimm slot #6: 1GB G.Skill PC3-12800HZ (Samsung HCF0)

Seems with 6x1GB AUTO CMD rate = 2T, so for 1T you need to change CMD rate from AUTO to 1T (1N).

Bumped vdimm straight to 1.830v in bios and clocked 6x1GB straight up to DDR3-1606Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T to see how it runs. Everest latency speeds seem to get slower as you add more modules. So in terms of fastest everest latency the order goes = 2x1GB > 3x1GB > 6x1GB. Still 32M time with 6x1GB DDR3-1606Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T is pretty decent.

6x1GB @DDR3-1606Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at 1.830v bios (DMM measured 1.835v real)









Off to bed, so will do more tests tomorrow with lower vdimm to see how this mismatched 6x1GB config handles

[jcool]

Lol I can't even run 3x2gb D9GTR at these low voltage settings with 1600 CAS 8.. goes to show just how much depends on the CPU having a good IMC.

Oh yeah, I can't go to S3. S4 works fine but S3 will power down, power button blinking. When I hit the button it starts the mobo but hangs at "CF" so I have to shut it down & restart it like 2-3 times. Sometimes it will also reset BCLK (but not the entire bios).
BCLK too high? Tried at 211x19 and also backed down to 200... no go.

Oh yeah, official 114 bios.

[msgclb]

I couldn't get my DFI LP UT X58 with the 0106 BIOS and my 920 to boot with a BCLK above 170. I've flashed the BIOS to 0114 using a bootable USB drive and will see if that helps. I started with the BIOS setting in the first post and adjusted them to my system.

I tried both Vista 64-bit SP1 and XP Pro 32-bit SP3. I suspect that I'll be doing a major swap of components with my P6T sooner than I anticipated.

[eva2000]

Lol I can't even run 3x2gb D9GTR at these low voltage settings with 1600 CAS 8.. goes to show just how much depends on the CPU having a good IMC.

Oh yeah, I can't go to S3. S4 works fine but S3 will power down, power button blinking. When I hit the button it starts the mobo but hangs at "CF" so I have to shut it down & restart it like 2-3 times. Sometimes it will also reset BCLK (but not the entire bios).
BCLK too high? Tried at 211x19 and also backed down to 200... no go.

Oh yeah, official 114 bios.

CF post led and symtoms are all nearly signs of lack of vdimm voltage so try more vdimm and hence more cpu vtt

I couldn't get my DFI LP UT X58 with the 0106 BIOS and my 920 to boot with a BCLK above 170. I've flashed the BIOS to 0114 using a bootable USB drive and will see if that helps. I started with the BIOS setting in the first post and adjusted them to my system.

I tried both Vista 64-bit SP1 and XP Pro 32-bit SP3. I suspect that I'll be doing a major swap of components with my P6T sooner than I anticipated.

voltages used http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-lp-ut-x5...emplate-12919/ ?

[jcool]

CF post led and symtoms are all nearly signs of lack of vdimm voltage so try more vdimm and hence more cpu vtt

Running 1,5V VTT and 1,75V Vdimm and the crappy 6x mem divider (ram @ 1200 something). Seriously I can't give more juice. Also it's perfectly prime/linpack stable.

[eva2000]

I'm confusing myself do you mean 6x mem or 12x mem ? I rarely experienced better stability with CPU VTT and VDIMM so close - usually for me the ideal gap (depending on modules used) is between 0.3-0.4v difference between CPU VTT and VDIMM. But then I haven't tried 2GB density modules yet.

6x1GB @DDR3-1688Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at 1.830v bios (DMM measured 1.835v real)
Bumped Bclk to 211 and reduced vdimm from 1.830v bios to 1.815v bios (DMM = 1.820v real) for DDR3-1688Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T.





Slightly faster 32M Pi times than 3x1GB D9GTR at same main timings even though below 6x1GB was done with considerably looser subtimings for tRFC, tWTP, tRRD and tFAW in bios. Will try tighter timings later.



Everest SPD and bandwidth

[msgclb]

voltages used http://i4memory.com/f80/dfi-lp-ut-x5...emplate-12919/ ?

I started off with the voltages used in your template with both the 0106 and 0114 BIOS. I won't know for sure until at least tomorrow night after I do some more testing but with the 0114 BIOS I do see a definite improvement.

When I was using the 0106 BIOS I set the QPI Frequency to AUTO but with the 0114 BIOS I set it to 4.8GT/s. With the 0106 BIOS using stock settings of BCLK of 133, ratio of 20x and vcore set to AUTO the CPU voltage was 1.23v. Now with the 0114 BIOS my CPU voltage is down to 1.05v.

So I think my mistake was not setting the QPI Frequency. Just the fact that my initial vcore was 1.05v has made a big difference.

[eva2000]

interesting for me always best to leave QPI frequency on AUTO

Best I can do with 6x1GB mismatched modules keeping voltages the same @879Mhz 8-8-8-24 1T at 1.815v bios (1.820v real)

[jcool]

I'm confusing myself do you mean 6x mem or 12x mem ? I rarely experienced better stability with CPU VTT and VDIMM so close - usually for me the ideal gap (depending on modules used) is between 0.3-0.4v difference between CPU VTT and VDIMM. But then I haven't tried 2GB density modules yet.

When I say 6x I mean 6x, dunno why you are always doubling the numbers? When you say 6x you are using the 12x
12x usually doesn't even post for me

[eva2000]

When I say 6x I mean 6x, dunno why you are always doubling the numbers? When you say 6x you are using the 12x
12x usually doesn't even post for me

I gotta settle of a consistent definition of mem multis for myself - confusing myself sometimes LOL

[jcool]

Just call them as they are reported in bios.. 6x is the lowest possible, 1200 ram at 200 BCLK. 8x is 1600 10x is 2000 etc.

[vega22]

With a very bad batch (3838A), i prefer to use low voltage and resigned to 3.8Ghz. My RAM is 7-7-7-24 1.65v stock, but i need to climb to 1.71v in Bios, i suppose that because of the needs of the Uncore.
Overall, very pleased with these numbers and the board.