Retail Q9650 Overclocking Thread

[Mr.Guvernment]

$339 on directron.com

[nugzo]

Hi Guys, Just found this thread

I'll be getting the UD3P later this week and hopefully It'll do far better with my Q9650 than the Maximus Formula did, as it's hitting a wall @ 3.8Ghz

These posts will help me enormously so thank you, and thanks especially to Jor3lBR because the above test & infomation will really save some time

Kind Regards

Orb

You made a great decision. I had a Maximus Formula as well and the UD3P will bring that 9650 to life! You picked a great template to use as well.



@ Jor3lBR, what bios are u using?

[Jor3lBR]

You made a great decision. I had a Maximus Formula as well and the UD3P will bring that 9650 to life! You picked a great template to use as well.



@ Jor3lBR, what bios are u using?

Sorry Nugzo I forgot to say that on my posts, I've been using F7C since my AIR results.

[andressergio]

kill_a_watt

I tested and my chip needs more vcore to achieve 4230(470x9) stable, or maybe more VTT i don't know...

This is what i am testing now

4203 (467x9) MEMS 1245 PL7 Stronger

[Dihon]

I heard about Intel 45nm OC degradation, that after a few weeks or months it become less & less oc able.

Is the Q9650 also affected ??

[SNiiPE_DoGG]

I heard about Intel 45nm OC degradation, that after a few weeks or months it become less & less oc able.

Is the Q9650 also affected ??

that is a complete and total myth, no cpu's are affected by this

[Bootup05]

Whats the black sidebar gadget called in the last pic ?

[nugzo]

Whats the black sidebar gadget called in the last pic ?

A black clock and Everest.

[davidk21770]

Originally Posted by Dihon View Post
I heard about Intel 45nm OC degradation, that after a few weeks or months it become less & less oc able.

Is the Q9650 also affected ??

that is a complete and total myth, no cpu's are affected by this

No, actually all CPU chips do. It's a temperature thing. If you let it run hot, it'll degrade a bit over time. Usually a small vcore bump'll fix it.

[kill_a_wat]

kill_a_watt

I tested and my chip needs more vcore to achieve 4230(470x9) stable, or maybe more VTT i don't know...

This is what i am testing now

4203 (467x9) MEMS 1245 PL7 Stronger

Looks like your IBT runs are good for 4.2Ghz.

Have you run Prime95 small FFT for 470x9? I'm pretty sure you'll get core failure if using those 4.2Ghz settings but just run it and tweak from there.

Normally my order of tweak in small fft is the lowest CPU-related volt then lastly the vCore - it really depends what your individual chip needs

Another thing you may want to try is:

CPU vCore - 1.42
CPU PLL - 1.61
CPU VTT - 1.42
GTL refs - core 0 - auto, core 1 - +70mV, core 2 - auto, core 3 - +70mV

Note: the above settings allowed me to small fft on 495x9... so they should be ample for you. I think 4.25-4.3 should need (at most) 1.4vCore and 1.4-1.42 CPU VTT

*with the GTL refs you may want to use the formula VTT x GTL ref then try different GTL combos that yield the same result eg .67 GTL that yields the same value as your current setup then try +/- 1 or 2 notches. Although from my experience I did not have much luck with this but I didn't try it for very long. Also i'm assuming you have been keeping a log? If not it would be a good idea

[kill_a_wat]

I heard about Intel 45nm OC degradation, that after a few weeks or months it become less & less oc able.

Is the Q9650 also affected ??

from my experience I think it gets faster

[orbiter]

You made a great decision. I had a Maximus Formula as well and the UD3P will bring that 9650 to life! You picked a great template to use as well.

Thanks

Nugzo - Are the GByte boards as well made as the Max Formula?

Just another couple of questions for you guys who have the UD3P highly OC'ed....

1. How are NB temps over 4.2Ghz?

2. Is there a jumper for a BIOS reset?

3. What BIOS should I use? (already DL F5) in anticipation

Regards

Orb

[onthepulse]

When buying a Q9650 now, what do you think is the best chipset/board for the best OC? X48 or P45?

[xguntherc]

P45 I've been told by more than a few people.. get a P45.

Also at those prices i really really want to sell my Q6700 that is my backup and get a Q9650 for a backup..

oh and I got bad news, Not sure if it's just a Bios problem and a new BIOS would help me. but on my ghetto 750i FTW Motherboard. the CPU VTT only goes to 1.4 maybe 1.45 I can't remember. but thats as High as it will let me take the vtt/fsb votage. So either I need another BIOS revision. Or the eVGA 750i just doesn't go that high, but then again it's not really known for it's multiple options in the bios, as there isn't very many.. lol.

(This is where I say your right, my 750i sucks).. lol jk jk. it sucks but it's done me well. I was able to hit 4.3 Ghz a few days ago. I couldn't bench with it, kept crashing. but I didn't go over 1.368 v either. I guess I should try raising voltage even higher. as these are only bench runs, I'm not going to leave my voltage that high.. ever.

[andressergio]

Another thing you may want to try is:

CPU vCore - 1.42
CPU PLL - 1.61
CPU VTT - 1.42
GTL refs - core 0 - auto, core 1 - +70mV, core 2 - auto, core 3 - +70mV

Note: the above settings allowed me to small fft on 495x9... so they should be ample for you. I think 4.25-4.3 should need (at most) 1.4vCore and 1.4-1.42 CPU VTT

*with the GTL refs you may want to use the formula VTT x GTL ref then try different GTL combos that yield the same result eg .67 GTL that yields the same value as your current setup then try +/- 1 or 2 notches. Although from my experience I did not have much luck with this but I didn't try it for very long. Also i'm assuming you have been keeping a log? If not it would be a good idea

Thanks mate

Is PLL really helping you ? in my case i really don't see it effects...

[nugzo]

Thanks

Nugzo - Are the GByte boards as well made as the Max Formula?

Just another couple of questions for you guys who have the UD3P highly OC'ed....

1. How are NB temps over 4.2Ghz?

2. Is there a jumper for a BIOS reset?

3. What BIOS should I use? (already DL F5) in anticipation

Regards

Orb

Quality of the ud3 is close to the maximus. real close.

Dont know about NB Temps... This board doesnt have a NB sensor.

There are 2 pins for the clr cmos instead of 3 like a lot of boards. I have a power button from an old compaq hooked to it. Honestly i've never needed it. If your OC is bad, the board will revert back on its own every time. It'll power cycle a few times.... just let it do its thing and it'll boot at default settings.

i think F7c is the best bios.

[orbiter]

Quality of the ud3 is close to the maximus. real close.

Dont know about NB Temps... This board doesnt have a NB sensor.

There are 2 pins for the clr cmos instead of 3 like a lot of boards. I have a power button from an old compaq hooked to it. Honestly i've never needed it. If your OC is bad, the board will revert back on its own every time. It'll power cycle a few times.... just let it do its thing and it'll boot at default settings.

i think F7c is the best bios.

OK nice, Thanks nugzo.

You still have NB air cooled? and it's still ok at 4.5Ghz.

Kind Regards

Orb

[Jor3lBR]

OK nice, Thanks nugzo.

You still have NB air cooled? and it's still ok at 4.5Ghz.

Kind Regards

Orb

North bridge only needs a small fan there, this board runs cooler then any other I had, probably the extra cooper.

I did all my runs on stock sinks on SB, NB, and Mosfets:
-Q9540@5095Mhz;
-Q9650@5005Mhz;
-Q9650@4400Mz on AIR;

Check my sig for results.

[orbiter]

North bridge only needs a fan there, this board runs cooler then any other I had, probably the extra cooper.

I did all my runs on stock sinks on SB, NB, and Mosfets:
-Q9540@4095Mhz;
-Q9650@5005Mhz;
-Q9650@4400Mz on AIR;

Check my sig for results.

At what stage do I need have a fan on NB Jor3lBR? as for 24/7 use I'm hopefully going to run @ 4 - 4.1 Ghz. Also when using fan did you remove the blue heatsink cover over the NB?

Kind Regards

Orb

[Jor3lBR]

At what stage do I need have a fan on NB Jor3lBR? as for 24/7 use I'm hopefully going to run @ 4 - 4.1 Ghz. Also when using fan did you remove the blue heatsink cover over the NB?

Kind Regards

Orb

Hey Orbiter,

You wont need a fan to run 4 to 4.1Ghz, I would only use it for FSB's around 500 or above that.

If you don't wanna remove the original cover you can just buy 2 little CoolJags that have 18CFM in Push-Pull (side-by-side) 6v and you're fine!

If removing original heat sink (hot blow-dryer and lots of Patience) you will only need a 50 or 60mm fan on top.

[kill_a_wat]

Thanks mate

Is PLL really helping you ? in my case i really don't see it effects...

Honestly PLL hasn't done much for me at all. I mainly up it a little if chasing more memory performance and see if it helps stabilise the system

[andressergio]

Honestly PLL hasn't done much for me at all. I mainly up it a little if chasing more memory performance and see if it helps stabilise the system

Thank you, will try but seems that this quad needs more food, i runt a max stress using 3048MB IBT 10 run on 4185(465x9) mems 1200PL7 and gave me on last run different residual i don't know what can be causing that as mems passed overnight memtest.

Cheers
Sergio

[nugzo]

OK nice, Thanks nugzo.

You still have NB air cooled? and it's still ok at 4.5Ghz.

Kind Regards

Orb

I'm using Jor3lBR's 4400 template . I was 12hours Blend and 13hrs Small FFT with his settings. I bumped vtt, pll, mch and vcore all up 1 notch and ive been priming for 4 hours now @ 495FSB 4455MHz.

We should probably move this discussion over to the UD3 thread now.

Here is my NB cooling..

[systemviper]

I found 503 qas my sweet spot on that board, I think in a week or so i will go back and see it could get it higher, that is just such a killer set up,.

nice work nugzo plus that is a friggin sweet case!

[orbiter]

Hey Orbiter,

You wont need a fan to run 4 to 4.1Ghz, I would only use it for FSB's around 500 or above that.

If you don't wanna remove the original cover you can just buy 2 little CoolJags that have 18CFM in Push-Pull (side-by-side) 6v and you're fine!

If removing original heat sink (hot blow-dryer and lots of Patience) you will only need a 50 or 60mm fan on top.

Ok Jor3lBR thank you

I'm using Jor3lBR's 4400 template . I was 12hours Blend and 13hrs Small FFT with his settings. I bumped vtt, pll, mch and vcore all up 1 notch and ive been priming for 4 hours now @ 495FSB 4455MHz.

We should probably move this discussion over to the UD3 thread now.

Here is my NB cooling..

Nice setup ya got there nugzo & very nice going on the OC too

I Think I'd be more than happy with a quick test at 4.400GHz when I get mine, then for 24/7 I think around 4.0 - 4.2Ghz would be fine.

Orb