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    Quote Originally Posted by Chad Boga View Post
    Sometimes belief isn't enough and AMD have done a remarkable job in many respects over the years, but what a time to have the double whammy of serious design missteps and a massive debt burden due to the purchase of ATI.


    Man, I don't think one needs to be Nostradamus to see how it is almost certainly going to play out(unless Intel have their own TLB bug at the Barcelona level in Nehalem) - just look at what Conroe did on the desktop in late 2006, all of 2007. But it does take a bit of effort I would imagine to say with a straight face, that there is a great deal of uncertainty at play here.
    As I said, we have had some hints. But the current Opteron setup is not totally lost, and price will determine the faith of AMD's server CPUs. AMD will probably stay competitive but margins will decrease.

    Donnie27:

    Well some seem to give out that label pretty fast. And yeah, those oil dollars will be pouring in for quite some time. Could probably invest so much that Intel would be in serious trouble but highly unlikely, can't see that investment paying off. Better to invest as much to give AMD a chance to be competitive for performance crown (or to be generating positive cash flow) and then let it "manage" itself. There is clearly enough room for more than one CPU manufacturer and AMD is the only option to Intel that's got a chance currently.

    Edit: Yeah, the JAS 39 Gripen is quite neat. Was a shame that or neighbour Norway chose the F22 Raptor instead. Would have made a lot of people in Sweden happy... Now here's a sector with A LOT of foul play... Hehe.
    Last edited by marten_larsson; 01-13-2009 at 11:24 AM.

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