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Even i3 got HT
Never heard of i3, then again this doesnt change my mind about HT. It almost sounds like we'll have to see HT threads over New Section for the next 9 months

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And saying you wouldnt need anything like i7/i5 etc is like saying you could run anything fine on a K6.
I didnt say you dont need anything like an i7/i5. Maybe you forgot, I almost had one my self.

Also I'd like to see a K6 running any recent game without issues

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Just as dumb as the slower but smoother agument.
Did you experience it your self to rightfully say so?

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Also i5s purpose with ondie PCIe is a whole other thing than you think. We talk cheap boards and design. Smaller sizes. And the CPU will be cheap aswell. Tho i7 920 is already extremely cheap.
Yes, a relative cheap CPU. Then it needs special DDR3, new board which is only the price of the best boards from previous generation. Yeah, awesome

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AMD will need HT and they gonna need it fast. You could end up with a dualcore i3 with HT whooping a deneb. Thats not gonna be fun. Nehalem got higher IPC than Yorkfield. Yorkfield got higher IPC than Deneb. Both Yorkfield and Nehalem outclocks Deneb. And Nehalem utterly destroys Yorkfield in performance not even to mention Deneb. This chip thats behind these 2 already is what gonna carry AMD to 2011. And on 45nm all the way.
I dont know what numbers you read but from my understanding all CPU's are pretty close at an average resolution of 1680x1050, Nehalem sometimes even being beaten by Kentsfield.

Also Nehalem doesnt out clock Deneb thus far, [sarcasm]unless I missed the handpicked super Nehalem from DrWho[/sarcasm]

Only reason why AMD would need HT is servers, nothing else. Only thing that's slightly disappointing is its power consumption. However, I dont care about that stuff, if I'd care I shouldnt have a PC in the first place.

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Hopefully AMD will have both more cores and HT in 2011 to stay afloat. Even Larrabee got HT like Power, Itanium, Sparc, Atom etc
AMD is more or less the last one without HT, and they desperately needs it.
Ehm, no. What they need is a more efficient architecture. HT was usefull on dual cores, not on quad cores used in desktops for average usage.

Where people said IMC's were useless on desktops, I think HT is a lot worse.

Spoken about Atom, saw the new Neo CPU's