AMD Phenom II X4 (AM2+) Pricing revealed!

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Meh... Well, ain't HT getting a bit old now though?

I can imagine why it'sn on i7, it's designed for a whole other purpose then most of us use it now. But i5 is for desktop, HT barely does a significant thing, at least for gaming. So dont trough the magic stick on the fact it has HT. Integrated PCI-e controller would most likely be more favourable than HT, only for latency though but still.

I dont know when AMD can offer something against i5, although Im wondering if it's needed. Just as i7/i5 could be in 2011 on a better process, so can Deneb have some significant improvements before the actual i5 launch

Time will tell though. Numbers hardly matter anyway, Agena was more a disaster because it couldnt OC very good. OC'ers killing people for a better benchmark number dont like that, go to Intel, average customers read and hear how and what and go with Intel. Now with the improved clocking I think they already gain a whole lot. Having a 4Ghz i7 or Deneb for gaming... Now dont tell me this difference is so significant you'd get an i7 over Deneb

Even i3 got HT

And saying you wouldnt need anything like i7/i5 etc is like saying you could run anything fine on a K6. Just as dumb as the slower but smoother agument. Also i5s purpose with ondie PCIe is a whole other thing than you think. We talk cheap boards and design. Smaller sizes. And the CPU will be cheap aswell. Tho i7 920 is already extremely cheap.

AMD will need HT and they gonna need it fast. You could end up with a dualcore i3 with HT whooping a deneb. Thats not gonna be fun. Nehalem got higher IPC than Yorkfield. Yorkfield got higher IPC than Deneb. Both Yorkfield and Nehalem outclocks Deneb. And Nehalem utterly destroys Yorkfield in performance not even to mention Deneb. This chip thats behind these 2 already is what gonna carry AMD to 2011. And on 45nm all the way.

Hopefully AMD will have both more cores and HT in 2011 to stay afloat. Even Larrabee got HT like Power, Itanium, Sparc, Atom etc
AMD is more or less the last one without HT, and they desperately needs it.