AMD Shanghai/Deneb Review Thread

[Lastviking]

Well....i'm somewhat confused....if you're trying to say that phenom ii doesn't clock high like I7...that's backwards,

I personally already posted screenie a few pages back in this thread near 4.6. That's on air.

Official record on air for phenom II is 4.7

The world record for I7 with LN2 is 5.5

The world record for Phenom II is 6.3

Phenom II's clock higher than I7...no debate about that. They do it on air at about half the load temp, and no matter how you slice it system power consumption is a fraction of I7.

As far as chip temps go, i half agree, since thermal probe can clear that up, or IR thermometer at base of heatsink should be within a couple c of reported temp. It does depend on motherboard and whether or not the thermal probes got screwed up.

However, i will say again, that the reported temp is nothing near the INTERNAL tempatures at the hot spots which are usually 15-20c above anything accurately reported. Yes many are not savvy when it comes to installing heatsinks, but i would think that the majority of those that post in this forum can figure out how to mount a heatsink properly.

Regardless of software, bios is almost always accurate and shouldn't be much question as to validity if software reports similar temps. Bios, Asus AI, AOD, thermal probe and IR thermometer have ALL given temps within 1-2c of one another for me, and as far as I7 goes, again there is no debate on thier high temps.

Dont get me wrong here

Phenom II clocks higher on LN2 than Ci7(buts its looks its clocks very well under LN2 and are much cheaper than the Ci7 if you buying all the parts"this is ++ things for Phenom II)

Ci7 clocks high on air(Phenom II also but its looks like Ci7 is abit stronger here but not much, but it can be becuse of that not all can buy Phenom II yet)

You did say Phenom II have done 4.7 on air...the Ci7 920 have also done that and many is doing 4.6 on air.

Dont get me wrong... i love Phenom II but i dont like "Zucker2k"


And one more thing 4.8 will soon be taken by air if i dont get a bad one (Phenom II 940BE)