^ yeah, its all about the memory, always has been imo.Originally Posted by munim
They seem to conclude that the 295 is framebuffer limited
imagine one day you can buy a card with only the chip on it, and you buy "graphic ram sticks" seperately and install them in their specific slots, you can have memory for the graphics as much as you like
now thats innovation
Last edited by Salsoolo; 12-21-2008 at 07:19 PM.
Thats what Im saying, dont go with their opinion/conclusions or comments. The graphs seems to show an different reality than the one portrayed by the author imo.They seem to conclude that the 295 is framebuffer limited
lol they had videocards with upgradable ram slots, won't happen again and for good reason.
fact
http://www.pcgameshardware.com/aid,6...cture_gallery/First preview tests of Nvidia's Geforce GTX 295 went online yesterday (amongst others at PC Games Hardware). Today we will present a few detailed pictures of the Dual GPU card.
one fugly design wonder what will happen if you put just one card lol
Kinda like upgradable RAID cards with onboard DIMM slots...good idea!^ yeah, its all about the memory, always has been imo.
imagine one day you can buy a card with only the chip on it, and you buy "graphic ram sticks" seperately and install them in their specific slots, you can have memory for the graphics as much as you like
now thats innovation
More to that...how about a graphics board with a socketable GPU?...new kit comes out, just pop out the old GPU and in with the new one
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the socketable gpu is amazing.Kinda like upgradable RAID cards with onboard DIMM slots...good idea!
More to that...how about a graphics board with a socketable GPU?...new kit comes out, just pop out the old GPU and in with the new one
i meant graphic memory slots on the motherboard itself, just like the normal ram.
but your input is great too.
GTX295 SLi on Core i7 Platform Scores P32573 on 3DMark Vantage
The guys over at Xfastest have been hard at work testing out the upcoming NVIDIA GeForce GTX295 graphics card based on a dual GT200 GPU setup. For this particular setup they have got two said graphics cards for a quad-SLi arrangement on an Asus Rampage II Extreme, featuring an Intel Core i7 Extreme 965 overclocked to 4.19Ghz. The graphics cards were overclocked to 705Mhz (core), 1480Mhz (shader), 1250Mhz (memory). The test was run on 3DMark Vanatage's Performance setting and gave a GPU score of 35711, leading to a total score of P32573. These scores look promising as the tests have been run on pre-release drivers which will not yet be fully optomized, if you want to try out these drivers, they can be found here, obviously these are pre-release beta drivers, so use them at your own risk.
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http://www.techpowerup.com/79657/GTX...k_Vantage.html
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But the graphs in the apples to apples section showed the 4870x2 besting the 295 @ high AA at high res.
yeah....the 4870x2 won most tests at 25xx res and 8x AA. Small difference and unplayable FPS tho... Looks like their AA scalling and a lil more Vmem makes a difference under such conditions.
But imo its not very representative......in the other tests with 1920 res and below the 295 was impressive. Even with 8x AA. With 4x AA the diff grows more in 295 favor
290W... damn...
and i remember when reviewers and users complained the 9800xt cards with 80W tdp were too hot ^^
wait, i actually remember when gpus didnt even need a heatsink at all
i feel old now
very interesting, almost the same clocks as single gtx280 cards there!
the heatsink looks a bit weird...
Last edited by saaya; 12-24-2008 at 01:28 AM.
Yeah this is one of the times you have to look at the resolution you plan to game at. If you're not running at 2560x1600 8xAA the memory wall isn't very relevant. Although this might start to creep down into lower resolutions as future games use more memory for textures and other assets.yeah....the 4870x2 won most tests at 25xx res and 8x AA. Small difference and unplayable FPS tho... Looks like their AA scalling and a lil more Vmem makes a difference under such conditions.
But imo its not very representative......in the other tests with 1920 res and below the 295 was impressive. Even with 8x AA. With 4x AA the diff grows more in 295 favor
These were not GPU's...wait, i actually remember when gpus didnt even need a heatsink at all
i feel old now
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remember when we were using a 2d primary display card with a secondary 3d accelerator card290W... damn...
and i remember when reviewers and users complained the 9800xt cards with 80W tdp were too hot ^^
wait, i actually remember when gpus didnt even need a heatsink at all
i feel old now
very interesting, almost the same clocks as single gtx280 cards there!
the heatsink looks a bit weird...Gosh was 3DFX some great times...I still remember first time I played Turok! Boy was it amazing back then!
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Its one possibility...But the mem difference is soo small... Lets wait and see how near future games behave. Looks like 25xx res with 8x AA is an wall for current cards in new games...even the x2....The x2 fares a lil better under such conditions but its totally unplayable too. Higher BW and a bit better AA scaling may be helping too.
But when we look at 1920 res (even w/ 8x AA) the GTX295 is a friggin monster in most games.
really? because i have an old PCI Videocard that has no heatsinks on it.
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This card is going to be stupid rediculously priced... not worth the money. I guess its good its comming out since it will shuve the price of the 4870x2 down.
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alot of people hanging onto their voodoo cards are crying right now
hold out 4 Q2-Q3 GTX260-216 will do til then nothing realy worth the jump to pay the extra money 4
Last edited by dan7777; 12-27-2008 at 03:55 AM. Reason: spelling mistake
Looks like the GTX 295 uses Hynix 0.8ns ICs:
Hynix H5A85223CFR GDDR3-N0C
Aluminum heatsink is manufactured by CoolerMaster:
TM70 NV
P/N: 095-0070-004
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wow. 2x gpu & only one pcb.. 'bout bloody time
2 pcb, dude^^
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High tdp and 2 tightly fit board with 1 that looks like it wont even have a cooler...
Seems like suicide to me...I have a feeling it's going to have 4870x2 like temps.
2 pcb, the cooling system is sandwiched between them.wow. 2x gpu & only one pcb.. 'bout bloody time
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