AMD Athlon X2 7750 Black Edition: dual-core Phenom at the ready

[Rammsteiner]

Not really LOL.

Already pointed that out really. Im embarrased enough already, dont lol over it

This is the kind of response I don't really want to read. I know you're not stupid, so please don't act as such. You know what underperform means, but in case you don't want to remember it I'll tell you: it involves comparison. One thing underperforms compared to other when its perfomance is lower than the thing you're comparing to. There is no such thing as underperforming with only one thing, you need two and you need to compare them to decide which one is faster. Phenom is not slow by itself, Phenom is slow compared to Penryn (and Kentsfield). In consequence, Phenom underperforms compared to Penryn. I have not suffered any "under performing" as you call it with my Banias laptop, and yet it underperforms like hell compared to any Core2 or K10. So please, enough with that self-justificative responses.

Then I think we both have different opinions about underperforming. Comparing it to competition then to define it as underperforming is nuts IMO. K10 is better than K8. When a succesor performs worse, then I call it underperforming. It's not like an architecure is designed today, tomorrow a competitor releases a better one and thus they design a better one the day after and launch it. Although AMD and Intel do have to compete with each other price and performance wise, their advances are pretty much independend most of the time.

Phenom scales well, I don't see any faults there. The problem is that when you increase frequency in both K10 and Core2 the base differencies grow bigger. And the problem with Deneb is the same, but it has way more frequency headroom so AMD can mitigate it with that: you'd need something like 4,5GHz+ to beat a 4GHz Penryn, the same way it needs 3GHz to be somewhat competitive with Q9450 and Q9550.

Well, Phenom actually does better at higher clocks than Penryn scaling wise, at least in gaming though. But Yorkfield has a lot more head room and its advantage above Agena makes this like neglectible, for numbers people though. Although I used numbers a long time back to notice Agena does better at higher clocks than Yorkfield but well, everyone has got to be a bit hypocrite now and then

loser CPU

At this point I feel so bad for Chad really now I called him the Italian Chad, Chad at least shown some... you know, a slight form of arguments.

Seriously mate, get a clue there