ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

[screwtech02]

Man, the most i can increase my pci-e is to 105-106, it will BSOD anything higher than that... P5E was able to run 115 no issues.....

[Grnfinger]

Same here, when I first got the board I set 110 and no boot, best I can do for 471FSB is 105, even 106 results in a post hang
Maximus X38 can do 110-112 up to 505FSB

[JoeBar]

To me that's the most annoying and unacceptable bug of this mb...

I'm used running all my boards @ 110mhz pcie and this really sucks for a board of its class...

[Grnfinger]

I really think that Asus should offer up an a apology to all the MIIF owners, it really says something about a company that slaps a 300 price tag on a 80 dollar board, but hey those red heatsinks make up for it and lets not forget the lovely night light included with your motherboard
Half the bios options do not work 100%, the lack of functioning pull-ins is dissapointing, they were a real nice performance boost on the X38 board.
3 bug'd bios release in a row is pathetic at best, DFI and Gigabyte is looking better everyday.
I'm about to drop $400 on a X58 board Rampage II Extreme but I'm really having a hard time supporting Asus atm

[SiGfever]

I really think that Asus should offer up an a apology to all the MIIF owners, it really says something about a company that slaps a 300 price tag on a 80 dollar board, but hey those red heatsinks make up for it and lets not forget the lovely night light included with your motherboard
Half the bios options do not work 100%, the lack of functioning pull-ins is dissapointing, they were a real nice performance boost on the X38 board.
3 bug'd bios release in a row is pathetic at best, DFI and Gigabyte is looking better everyday.
I'm about to drop $400 on a X58 board Rampage II Extreme but I'm really having a hard time supporting Asus atm

Agreed, I have been a long time Asus fan but after this MB I am rethinking my next purchase. When a $140.00 MB can outshine this $280-300 board then RoG is more like RoC.

[GeorgeVasil]

Nice clocks George!

Disable Mem OC charger. It will increase your mem scores.

BTW have u tried increasing your pcie freq when running @ 533mhz fsb? Does your mb boot?

Thanks Boy..

No,my mobo not boots even at 101 PCIE...at any FSB.

To me that's the most annoying and unacceptable bug of this mb...

I'm used running all my boards @ 110mhz pcie and this really sucks for a board of its class...

The most annoying for me is the VNB-vTT<0.11. I spend 4 days and nights to make my system stable @lower voltages..and every time i PWER on it hungs (CMOS, load profile ..blah blah blah ..)..

[zlojack]

After struggling with the RE I decided to avoid the RIIE.

Asus won't get the message if you give them more of your money.

[CryptiK]

I'm about to drop $400 on a X58 board Rampage II Extreme but I'm really having a hard time supporting Asus atm

I would not buy one if I were you, it is almost certain that the memory trace design of the P6T is superior to the trace design of the Rampage II Extreme. This is most likely to be the reason for the P6T clocking ram better than the Ramapge II Extreme. Asus are most likely going to revise the trace design of the R2E so be the same as the P6T hopefully correcting the problem. At least wait until this has been done and the revised design boards have been released.

[Nevin]

Hi everyone , I want to set 8x565 for 4,5Ghz , I made some test but always got a blue screen , so I don't have a clue from were to start . Please help.

[CryptiK]

Nevin, fill out the bios settings template showing what settings you tried that didn't work and we can go from there.

[Nevin]

The most stable settings (10 min IBT) are :
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 8
FSB Frequency : 565
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1130Mhz
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : adv 300ps
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : adv 300ps
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : normal

DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto

Write to PRE Delay : auto
Read to PRE Delay : auto
PRE to PRE Delay : auto
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : auto
ALL PRE to REF Delay : auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Enabled
MEM OC Charger : Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Moderate
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level 10

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage : 1.4
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.6
FSBT : 1.4
DRAM Voltage : 2.18
North Bridge Voltage :1.55
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 1 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 2 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 3 : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

CPU Configuration
Advanced CPU settings

CIE support - Disabled
Max CPUID - Disabled
Intel Virtualization tech - Disabled
CPU TM Function - Enabled
Execute Disable bit - Enabled

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

[CryptiK]

That looks like it should be ok, except for the fact you are using the wrong type of memory for high FSB. A few people find that your ram cannot overclock past DDR2-1110 to DDR2-1120 with 100% stability (bench yes, stable no), so you may be at the limit of your ram. You have more than enough vNB and vcore etc for 565 FSB, the weakest link and most likely cause is your ram.

Do you have any other ram that you know does more than DDR2-1130 stable you can try?

EDIT - also try and play with the ram skews & NB GTL Ref, also perhaps try 'delay 300ps' on both the CPU & NB see if that helps at all.

I have no issues with PCI-E at 101 regardless of FSB but as George said give 100 a go.

[GeorgeVasil]

@Nevin

Set PCIE to 100 mate..

[Nevin]

No but I was able to set 8x600 with Vddr=2,35v and even pass 1M superP (9,28), that's why I think 4,5ghz is attainable. But I can try 8,5x533 to be sure if it's the RAM.

[CryptiK]

Yes use a lower FSB and a divider to push the ram up to where you want to be at 1:1 and stress test it - it may be bench stable at 560 - 600 (i have seen Dinos22 do this with your kit) but it was not properly stable.

[andressergio]

Well guys seems that the MF2 asked me for all lower values than my P5K deluxe...It would be nice that someone post it settings for a Q9650 B batch vid 1,25 as mine so i can see the differences

I started to prime to check stability, all tests are on 26,2C room temp with mems 1:1

4005 (445x9) idle 1,288 load 1,304


4050 (450x9) idle 1,2962 load 1,312


Cheers Sergio

[Grnfinger]

I would not buy one if I were you, it is almost certain that the memory trace design of the P6T is superior to the trace design of the Rampage II Extreme. This is most likely to be the reason for the P6T clocking ram better than the Ramapge II Extreme. Asus are most likely going to revise the trace design of the R2E so be the same as the P6T hopefully correcting the problem. At least wait until this has been done and the revised design boards have been released.

Thats good to know, thanks for the info

[Nevin]

Can someone give me some tips for GTLs please.

CPU GTL Reference 0 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 1 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 2 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 3 : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

[Grnfinger]

Can someone give me some tips for GTLs please.

CPU GTL Reference 0 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 1 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 2 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 3 : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Cryptik has taken the time to make a thread dedicated to GTL's perhaps you should take the time to read through it.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=202292

[meangreenxp]

Greetings,

Recently I replaced a dead P5W DH deluxe with the M2F. With the P5W I was able to overclock my Q6600 G0 to 3.4GHZ with 24/7 stability for over a year before my motherboard died. The M2F has a great deal of BIOS settings for the overclocker, however the manual doesn't give a detailed explanation of each setting. I have searched the this awesome forum as well as other to get my OC to 3.6Ghz, however it is not 100% stable. I am able to run Prime, Orthos, Everest successfully without any errors, but at times I get the BSOD with trying to put my virtual machine in suspend mode, or attaching certain USB hard drives with a NTFS.SYS error. I would like to get some opinions / suggestions on :

1. voltage settings
2. DRAM Skew settings
3. Mem OC charger / Twister / Booster
4. PCIE fREQ
5. CPU and Mem GTL References
6. various CPU settings

Here is my current BIOS settings:

Asus Maximus Formula II Bios 1307
Crucial Ballistix DDR2PC6400 (4X1GB)
Corsair TX750W PSU
Cpu Q6600 G0

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 400
CPU Clock Skew: auto
NB Clock Skew: auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Freq: DDR2-801Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
 1st Information: 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
  CAS# Latency : 5
  RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
  RAS# Precharge : 5
  RAS# ActivateTime : 15
  RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
  Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
  Write Recovery Time : auto
  Read to Precharge Time : auto
 2nd Information : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
  Read to Write Delay (S/D) :auto
  Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
  Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
  Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
  Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
  Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
  Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
 3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6
  Write to PRE Delay : auto
  Read to PRE Delay : auto
  PRE to PRE Delay : auto
  ALL PRE to ACT Delay : auto
  ALL PRE to REF Delay : auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Dram Read Training : Disable
MEM OC Charger : auto
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : auto
PCIE Freq: 100

CPU volt:1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50000
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.23250
DRAM Voltage: 2.19750
North Bridge Voltage: 1.23250 
SB 1.5 Voltage: 1.51325
SB 1.1 Voltage: 1.12650

CPU GTL Reference 0 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO


Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled 

Thank you for your input it will be helpful for myself and others I am sure.

[Grnfinger]

Greetings,

Recently I replaced a dead P5W DH deluxe with the M2F. With the P5W I was able to overclock my Q6600 G0 to 3.4GHZ with 24/7 stability for over a year before my motherboard died. The M2F has a great deal of BIOS settings for the overclocker, however the manual doesn't give a detailed explanation of each setting. I have searched the this awesome forum as well as other to get my OC to 3.6Ghz, however it is not 100% stable. I am able to run Prime, Orthos, Everest successfully without any errors, but at times I get the BSOD with trying to put my virtual machine in suspend mode, or attaching certain USB hard drives with a NTFS.SYS error. I would like to get some opinions / suggestions on :

1. voltage settings
2. DRAM Skew settings
3. Mem OC charger / Twister / Booster
4. PCIE fREQ
5. CPU and Mem GTL References
6. various CPU settings

Here is my current BIOS settings:



Thank you for your input it will be helpful for myself and others I am sure.

4x1GBs will be hard on the NB, I would lean towards upping the NB volts
FSBT is kinda low as well for a 65nm quad

[Eeky NoX]

There is my first shot :



So tell me where I am ...diggin' this night with yours tips

[CryptiK]

Yes I agree, as Grnfinger suggested, raise FSBT & VNB, I'd suggest putting 1.30v for both of them to begin with.

Greetings,

Recently I replaced a dead P5W DH deluxe with the M2F. With the P5W I was able to overclock my Q6600 G0 to 3.4GHZ with 24/7 stability for over a year before my motherboard died. The M2F has a great deal of BIOS settings for the overclocker, however the manual doesn't give a detailed explanation of each setting. I have searched the this awesome forum as well as other to get my OC to 3.6Ghz, however it is not 100% stable. I am able to run Prime, Orthos, Everest successfully without any errors, but at times I get the BSOD with trying to put my virtual machine in suspend mode, or attaching certain USB hard drives with a NTFS.SYS error. I would like to get some opinions / suggestions on :

1. voltage settings
2. DRAM Skew settings
3. Mem OC charger / Twister / Booster
4. PCIE fREQ
5. CPU and Mem GTL References
6. various CPU settings

Here is my current BIOS settings:

Asus Maximus Formula II Bios 1307
Crucial Ballistix DDR2PC6400 (4X1GB)
Corsair TX750W PSU
Cpu Q6600 G0

Ai Overclock Tuner: Manual
OC From CPU Level Up: Auto
Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
FSB Frequency: 400
CPU Clock Skew: auto
NB Clock Skew: auto
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
DRAM Freq: DDR2-801Mhz
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: Auto
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
 1st Information: 5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3
  CAS# Latency : 5
  RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
  RAS# Precharge : 5
  RAS# ActivateTime : 15
  RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
  Row Refresh Cycle Time : auto
  Write Recovery Time : auto
  Read to Precharge Time : auto
 2nd Information : 8-3-5-4-6-4-6
  Read to Write Delay (S/D) :auto
  Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
  Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
  Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
  Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
  Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
  Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
 3rd Information : 14-5-1-6-6
  Write to PRE Delay : auto
  Read to PRE Delay : auto
  PRE to PRE Delay : auto
  ALL PRE to ACT Delay : auto
  ALL PRE to REF Delay : auto

DRAM Static Read Control: Disable
Dram Read Training : Disable
MEM OC Charger : auto
Ai Clock Twister : light
Transaction Booster : auto
PCIE Freq: 100

CPU volt:1.45625
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50000
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.23250
DRAM Voltage: 2.19750
North Bridge Voltage: 1.23250 
SB 1.5 Voltage: 1.51325
SB 1.1 Voltage: 1.12650

CPU GTL Reference 0 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 1 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 2 : auto
CPU GTL Reference 3 : auto
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO


Ratio CMOS Setting: 9
C1E Support: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel Virtualization Tech: Enabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

Load-Line Calibration: enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled 

Thank you for your input it will be helpful for myself and others I am sure.

[JoeBar]

The most annoying for me is the VNB-vTT<0.11. I spend 4 days and nights to make my system stable @lower voltages..and every time i PWER on it hungs (CMOS, load profile ..blah blah blah ..)..

Of course this is the most annoying bug...

My board is capable of doing up to 0.15 VNB-VTT. Should i consider myself lucky...?

I have no issues with PCI-E at 101 regardless of FSB but as George said give 100 a go.

Have u tried higher than 101mhz?

[screwtech02]

New personal best O3 run, after tweeking cpu/nb GTL's.....



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