Phenom II 6 GHz+ OVERCLOCK

[Jazzman]

What I find fascinating is that Mighty Intel feels threatened by piss-ant AMD. As many have observed here at XS, no cpu-z, wprime, etc. screenshots were permitted at the AMD demo. We only have word-of-mouth on PII 940 results. Yet, Intel feels threatened.

I think Intel feels there is a real chance of a repeat of the ATI/Nvidia debacle that occurred with the release of the 48xx line of video cards. No doubt in my mind that Intel is going to revise i7 pricing down in December to counter aggressive pricing by AMD. This is great news for all enthusiasts!

[Zucker2k]

What I find fascinating is that Mighty Intel feels threatened by piss-ant AMD. As many have observed here at XS, no cpu-z, wprime, etc. screenshots were permitted at the AMD demo. We only have word-of-mouth on PII 940 results. Yet, Intel feels threatened.

I think Intel feels there is a real chance of a repeat of the ATI/Nvidia debacle that occurred with the release of the 48xx line of video cards. No doubt in my mind that Intel is going to revise i7 pricing down in December to counter aggressive pricing by AMD. This is great news for all enthusiasts!

What I find fascinating is that an argument in a thread at XS could lead to an almighty benching session by Intel. We should be glad we're members here.

[Rammsteiner]

What I find fascinating is that an argument in a thread at XS could lead to an almighty benching session by Intel. We should be glad we're members here.

Dunno,

I sense a bit of fail in it. Handpicking out of 100K units, just to show that a guy on a forum posting in AMD threads might be right

[mnemonix]

Dunno,

I sense a bit of fail in it. Handpicking out of 100K units, just to show that a guy on a forum posting in AMD threads might be right

Quite, first the Intel engineer thinks he's qualified to say the AMD results may not be representitive of the product when it's released, then counters with a demonstration of a chip cherry picked from 100K units. Hypocrisy and fail in one easy PR exercise. Quite sad and childish really.

[Bgriffs]

Dunno,

I sense a bit of fail in it. Handpicking out of 100K units, just to show that a guy on a forum posting in AMD threads might be right

Hey if it means that somebody at Intel got worried at least a little bit about what this new AMD chip can do then it's nice to see. Now we have some real competition going on between the 2 and we all benefit from it. Intel might be going a little far to come out and say they are cherry picking and tweaking the chip to push it harder but who cares? I wanna see what she can do!

[Rammsteiner]

Quite, first the Intel engineer thinks he's qualified to say the AMD results may not be representitive of the product when it's released, then counters with a demonstration of a chip cherry picked from 100K units. Hypocrisy and fail in one easy PR exercise. Quite sad and childish really.

Indeed.

Hey if it means that somebody at Intel got worried at least a little bit about what this new AMD chip can do then it's nice to see. Now we have some real competition going on between the 2 and we all benefit from it. Intel might be going a little far to come out and say they are cherry picking and tweaking the chip to push it harder but who cares? I wanna see what she can do!

Yes, but say they get 6301Mhz out of it. Not that I would care, but then we've another rush of said fanboys and arrogant Intel PR's trash'n and troll'n trough our threads. Not saying Im afraid for this Intel OC test or whatever.

It's just the fact some guy at a forum is bragging around and now they're going to 'prove' him right by, well, cherry picking from 100K units. I mean, I never saw Tony trashing over other well known brands, nor saaya or any other of these guys.

In the mean time everyone seems to forget AMD broke its own WR with Phenom II by a huge leap. We've seen P4 8Ghz already, I'd be impressed if i7 got near or over it. But lets face it, 6Ghz on an AMD CPU or an Intel CPU makes quite a big difference regarding accomplishments. At least for me.

[Chad Boga]

I think Intel feels there is a real chance of a repeat of the ATI/Nvidia debacle that occurred with the release of the 48xx line of video cards. No doubt in my mind that Intel is going to revise i7 pricing down in December to counter aggressive pricing by AMD.

I don't think any of those predictions will prove to be true.

Penryn is AMD's true rival, i7 is not the main game here.

[Zucker2k]

I don't think any of those predictions will prove to be true.

Penryn is AMD's true rival, i7 is not the main game here.

But there are penryn parts costing more than Ci7 in all price segments. How does intel reduce penryn prices without reducing Ci7 prices.

On another note, that graph looks quite familiar. Maybe a firmware update would give PII some nice speed bump.

[Chad Boga]

But there are penryn parts costing more than Ci7 in all price segments. How does intel reduce penryn prices without reducing Ci7 prices.

I think i7 because of the market space Intel is trying to position it in will be off in it's own little world in respect of pricing, however I expect Penryn pricing will be adjusted to reflect i7's introduction and any new improved competitive position from AMD.

[Zucker2k]

I think i7 because of the market space Intel is trying to position it in will be off in it's own little world in respect of pricing, however I expect Penryn pricing will be adjusted to reflect i7's introduction and any new improved competitive position from AMD.

What stopped Intel from doing that before? Intel ALWAYS base their pricing on Clock Speed/Multi/and Cache.

[Chad Boga]

What stopped Intel from doing that before? Intel ALWAYS base their pricing on Clock Speed/Multi/and Cache.

I don't see i7 as part of Intel's normal range for now, so I expect all the pricing action to be on the Penryn side over the next few months.

[Zucker2k]

I don't see i7 as part of Intel's normal range for now, so I expect all the pricing action to be on the Penryn side over the next few months.

Are you saying for the first time in history, Intel aregoing to depart from their pricing scheme? I'm sorry, but allevidence indicates otherwise. The QX 9775 and QX 9770 are both siginificantly more expensive than i965 XE. The Q9650 price > i940, and Q9550 price > i920. WHY? Ci7 prices have no where to go but down, especially given marginal performance improvement over penryn - a drop-in upgrade.

[Throwed]

What I find fascinating is that Mighty Intel feels threatened by piss-ant AMD. As many have observed here at XS, no cpu-z, wprime, etc. screenshots were permitted at the AMD demo. We only have word-of-mouth on PII 940 results. Yet, Intel feels threatened.

I think Intel feels there is a real chance of a repeat of the ATI/Nvidia debacle that occurred with the release of the 48xx line of video cards. No doubt in my mind that Intel is going to revise i7 pricing down in December to counter aggressive pricing by AMD. This is great news for all enthusiasts!

Very interesting comment. I believe the word of mouth by select people are leading them to believe AMD definatly has a nice chip on it's hands or they wouldn't be bothered at all. When AMD revised the Phenom series with the 50's series CPU's Intel didn't bat an eye because word of mouth showed the Phenom 50's series wan't that stellar, but the Phenom II has them very worried. AMD said that they are VERY confident with Denebs/Shanghai and the chips surpassed their expectations. So word of mouth + confident AMD= A worried Intel.

Pricing wise I have always loved AMD and I am glad Intel may have to revise the prices of their over priced chips. All the Pro-Intel folks should THANK AMD for things like this. We can expect a ton of Intel folks shifting to AMD soon. The changes AMD made at their company will pay off VERY soon!

AMD="The Smarter Choice"