Quote Originally Posted by dinos22 View Post
well there is always a bunch of user binned retail cherries on XS so benchers will eventually bin enough CPUs to find the right one

if this was done with no "tricks" Francois was alluding to then its fair game and we should see same or better results at XS

otherwise AMD's gonna have to do some serious explaining
I seriously doubt AMD did any "tricks" here ... They are trying to re-win the attention of the enthusiast community, and they way to do that is exactly what they are doing ... offering up something special at lower prices.

Phenom II is going to be much bigger success than Phenom was...