Phenom II info leaks out, AMD hints at something

[T_Flight]

They have to end it with -on or -om, what do you suggest?

AMD Pimptron X4? LOLOL

How about Boredom! LOL

[naokaji]

Phenom 2 introduction in January with 125W TDP and then in Feb they will introduce new ones with a TDP of only 95W?

talk about getting punished for early adoption, anyway, if the 95W ones oc as good as intel cpu's then they might mark the beginning of the Comeback of AMD in the Enthusiast Community.

[Shintai]

Phenom 2 introduction in January with 125W TDP and then in Feb they will introduce new ones with a TDP of only 95W?

talk about getting punished for early adoption, anyway, if the 95W ones oc as good as intel cpu's then they might mark the beginning of the Comeback of AMD in the Enthusiast Community.

The ones in january doesnt support DDR3 either. So its abit of a short upgrade path with those. The ones in february is also 200Mhz lower tho...

[Omastar]

How about Boredom! LOL

How about faildom?

[T_Flight]

Nah that's a little too harsh. Don't want them to fail. Just wanna see some screenshots.

[Katanai]

How about faildom?

That would be Pheildom™

[duploxxx]

The ones in january doesnt support DDR3 either. So its abit of a short upgrade path with those. The ones in february is also 200Mhz lower tho...

might be a bit of short upgrade, but that's up to those to decide if a move to ddr3 is in a shorttime frame or not. At least later versions are ddr2+dd3 compatible, for a system with onboard mem controller that's great added value.

the ones in february do not list the 125tdp package either, so not a full list, will be depending process wise and competition wise this is never done.

How about Boredom! LOL

as usual in AMD threads a MOD is needed time to time to clean up. Looking at your sig I would rather call it wastedom

Phenom 2 introduction in January with 125W TDP and then in Feb they will introduce new ones with a TDP of only 95W?

talk about getting punished for early adoption, anyway, if the 95W ones oc as good as intel cpu's then they might mark the beginning of the Comeback of AMD in the Enthusiast Community.

I wander if you said the same at the i7 threads, they have the same early adoption TDP rate

[adamsleath]

pics + numbers
95W...finally something from AMD to kill the q6600

a nice rig, and cheaper than Nehalem i will guess.

[Helmore]

The ones in january doesnt support DDR3 either. So its abit of a short upgrade path with those. The ones in february is also 200Mhz lower tho...

It is a nice upgrade path for those whom already have an AM2+ motherboard, my little brother wouldn't mind to see his 5000+ BE being replaced by something like this. If you have to buy a new motherboard to support this CPU, then yes it is a very short upgrade path.

as usual in AMD threads a MOD is needed time to time to clean up. Looking at your sig I would rather call it wastedom

I wander if you said the same at the i7 threads, they have the same early adoption TDP rate

Don't feel so offended by T_Flight, he's just joking and not being serious. Can't we just have some fun and sarcasm around here once in a while? There is no need to defend some company when someone makes a joke about it. I don't mind it if someone gets a bit defensive when someone is spreading some false information about some company, but a simple joke should be allowed.

[xlink]

so does anyone know if PhenomII + R600 will do 30,000 in 3dmark?

[clonez]

sure, if you can find a phenom clockable to 5.5 ghz, and r600 @ 1.1ghz crossfire


or 5ghz with dual 4870x2@ 850mhz (around)

[NightCrawler™]

I really hope AMD is back on track with this... my old AMD rig needs to be replaced soon...
I just hope that somewhere out of the bloom they release a similar chipset to X58.. no more pondering whether to go XF or SLi... but seeing them owning ATi hell will freeze over first...

Regardless... if the new line up touches the I7 I'm sticking with AMD... if not I'll be going to the other side...

[leoy]

sure, if you can find a phenom clockable to 5.5 ghz, and r600 @ 1.1ghz crossfire


or 5ghz with dual 4870x2@ 850mhz (around)

[Helmore]

I really hope AMD is back on track with this... my old AMD rig needs to be replaced soon...
I just hope that somewhere out of the bloom they release a similar chipset to X58.. no more pondering whether to go XF or SLi... but seeing them owning ATi hell will freeze over first...

There is nothing special about X58 that makes it support both SLI and CFX, that was merely a decision made by NVIDIA because they would otherwise loose the high-end market to ATI as NVIDIA does not have a chipset with a QPI interface. NVIDIA could easily allow SLI to run on an AMD 790FX chipset if they wanted to, but they just don't want to as this will make their own AMD chip sets less attractive. The same goes for the X38 and X48 chipsets, there is nothing in the chips that makes it impossible for SLI to run on those chips and it's a decision made by NVIDIA to not provide SLI support on those chips. This restriction is made at the driver level, the chipset drivers for NVIDIA chipsets don't allow CFX to run on NVIDIA's chipsets and the video card drivers of NVIDIA don't allow SLI to run on anything but NVIDIA chipsets and certain Intel X58 motherboards.

BTW, the Intel Smackover board does not have SLI support as Intel simply did not want to pay NVIDIA to allow SLI certification. If you certify your X58 to be used with SLI, you get a special BIOS code by NVIDIA which you have do integrate into your BIOS and then NVIDIA's drivers will check for this code to allow SLI. Maybe someone can hack this code into Intel's Smackover BIOS, although I don't think it will be easy to do.

[Brother Esau]

Just something to think about.
AMD HAS to be pull it off with Deneb.
After the horrible failure of Phenom, they absolutely have to bring something competitive to the table in order to sustain themselves, at the least.
The expectations are high, and they are rightly so.

This is a kind of market that needs more than just one player to sustain itself and keep on innovating.
I'm quite sure AMD realizes this completely and is doing what they can.

Just my 2 cents.

Nothing for nothing man but I cannot understand this local mentality of Phenom = Failure I have the First AMD SB600 board released and a Phenom 9600 (B2) and its all at stock currently and has been that way for a while now due to no time to O.C because of shortage of time in life in general currently. I can honestly say I have had not issue one with this Board or CPU not once! Even at stock its not by any means slow in any respect ......encoding video, music , gaming , etc ,etc, so I have no idea why most of you fellas have such reverence and hatred towards AMD.........WHY??????????

[Tony]

mainly because they all play SuperPi all day long brother LOL

We have a launch even today for i7 and I bet they show SuperPi there...as if in the whole scale of things it friggin matters.

volume sales are what matters, cost Vs performance...AMD proved with 4XXX GPU cards they could win at this, and I am sure they have a plan for Phenom 2 going in the same direction.

XS news is not really the place to talk about AMD anymore...every thread in the news section usually ends up going the same way

[Brother Esau]

mainly because they all play SuperPi all day long brother LOL (OMFG).....I think my E-PENIS just Grew ....SuPerPi ...FTW

We have a launch even today for i7 and I bet they show SuperPi there...as if in the whole scale of things it friggin matters.

volume sales are what matters, cost Vs performance...AMD proved with 4XXX GPU cards they could win at this, and I am sure they have a plan for Phenom 2 going in the same direction.

XS news is not really the place to talk about AMD anymore...every thread in the news section usually ends up going the same way

Yes very true indeed Tony! XS News has become the equivalent of the AMERICAN MENTALITY of SURVIVOR T.V Show......Its a Public Biatch out Session which in short is just to create DRAMA....and Anarchy....Nothing more!

[Donnie27]

You are a freshman as well, prior to these I had 2 Apple 2 clones, a 8086, a 286, 386, 486SX, 486DX, 586, pentium, K5, k6 and K6-2 (with on board L3 cache )

That slides are sure good lookin - but it's like a movie trailer - I've never watched a trailer that sucks - all of the trailers really kick ass, and then the movie shows it's true form. Hope amd can pull this off and cut some of the performance they lack

Don't say to us old timers bye-cracky, hehehe! That's just my resent history to prove a point. My first real computer was a Commie 64 in 1983, then an Atari 800XL, 286, 386 both built from the scrap in while I learned computers but they didn't belong to me. My next modern was an Pentium 100MHz about 15 years ago. I'm not exactly sure but the rest look something like, AMD-PR 150, Intel 133 & 166, Intel 200, 200 Pentium Pro, K-5 300, K6-2 380 replaced by a 400MHz K6-2 that really that actually worked at the advertised FSB, K6-3 400MHz as well I think. So add those before the other history. Either way, I've own more AMD than processors than Intel.

I'd also take trade-in on upgrades and have 3 to 12 computers waiting to be given away or sold. I donate them to various organizations like the Boys & Club, Local Recreation Centers, Women's shelters and etc.... I usually run 4 computers in my home. That's why i'm not so in a hurry for Quad Core.

[Donnie27]

That would be Pheildom™

ROFLMAO!

[frankR]

Go AMD!

[motopen1s]

And whats the * for with the aircooling OC?

I think that stands for chilled air.


Would be great if they manage to overclock that well though.

[Donnie27]

I think that stands for chilled air.


Would be great if they manage to overclock that well though.

They should denote why the "*" is there in the first place. Most of the time that means they used a 3rd party Cooler like the Thermalright Ultra 120 or something. Otherwise they'd have said stock cooling like HardOCP did with both coolers they used.

[Jacky]

Yes very true indeed Tony! XS News has become the equivalent of the AMERICAN MENTALITY of SURVIVOR T.V Show......Its a Public Biatch out Session which in short is just to create DRAMA....and Anarchy....Nothing more!

Why do you always bring this up? Are you even serious?
Their cpu is 15-25% slower across the board and consuming way more power. The launch featured more bad PR and lies than Iraq's information minister? Even though it was a nice chip after it matured a bit and was priced competetively, but it still almost ruined them. It was a failure, stop beating the horse, get over it.

Your equation of anarchy = bad is even more characteristic for the "illiterate American" than you think.

[Hornet331]

Why do you always bring this up? Are you even serious?
Their cpu is 15-25% slower across the board and consuming way more power. The launch featured more bad PR and lies than Iraq's information minister? Even though it was a nice chip after it matured a bit and was priced competetively, but it still almost ruined them. It was a failure, stop beating the horse, get over it.

Your equation of anarchy = bad is even more characteristic for the "illiterate American" than you think.

They see me rolin', they hatin'...

[Syn.]

They see me rolin', they hatin'...

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