Deneb vs Agena..feel Free to "speculate"

[Macadamia]

8 cores with 1MB l2 and 3ghz @ 45nm? No way. 32nm maybe, not 45nm. Way too big, it would be a mammoth die, and AMD has never been very good at making large monolithic dies.

It's an MCM of Shanghai, FUD was wrong. 8 cores, 0.5*8MB L2, 12MB L3, using HTT links to communicate.

But skt F is bigger than AM2(+) right? So they do have a bit more space to play with in that case

All the newer MCM stuff will use Socket G, which is rectangular and huge.