Quote Originally Posted by Jazzman View Post
Is 4.0Ghz at 53C on air while under 100% 4x load hot? It's a new day in AMD land!


Something is not right with this, There is no way that 1.475v on a non highk process will max out at 53c on air, It just is not possible.

Quote Originally Posted by demonkevy666 View Post
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/articl...50aHVzaWFzdA==

83C on a TRUE heat sink.

the chips will operate at 80C but there life span will be shortened.

some lower phenom have a higher max temp then higher clocked one like 9550 72C vs 9850 66C

higher bins need less volts there i probably another reason why. but if it's above 70C for most chips that's hot.

Deneb 45nm lithography uses water immersion form IBM if you look at the PDF posted in the thread you will see it's has more precise etching now.
What temp do you expect deneb to run at with a 1.2ghz oc? Also, I believe water immersion will not help with leakage with high volts on a non highk 45nm process.