Deneb vs Agena..feel Free to "speculate"

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15. Icore7 is looking Hotter then R600, phenom may have been hot but no that hot.

16. at least where not in a TDP OC with phenom.

The biggest reason will be the fact it will overclock to q6600's 3.6 level's without tdp going crazy like on nehalem.

Nehalem buyers will have remorse when they discover that even slight overclocks result in between 80C and 100C temps. We will see a huge migration of upset Intel customers to AMD Deneb.

And unlike the i7, it doesn't get up to 70+ degrees at that.

Nehalem looks to be the best and easiest cpu to oc ever. Before you reply with the predictable "But anandtech found that if you oc the lowest binned part by 1.3ghz on the stock cooler it might overheat" Think what you will say if deneb runs hot when you oc the lowest binned one by 1.3ghz on a stock cooler.

My prediction, Deneb will be a success, It will enjoy a 10-15% ipc improvement on average some things higher and some things lower and will have very good power usage below 3ghz, Over 3ghz it will be a lot worse due to current leakage with no highk metal gates.
It has a good chance of taking the performance per $ crown and the performance per watt below 3ghz crown.