Deneb Samples are almost out

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I'm sure there will be wild debate as to where exactly Deneb falls on the IPC spectrum. I remember you doing the analysis on Agena a while back, but in the end there is no 'law' on what constitutes IPC and it really depends on the benchmark suite(s) used for comparison.

For example, in the recent 100 CPU roundup, Yorkfield is some ~30% faster than Phenom per clock: http://www.matbe.com/articles/lire/1...urs/page30.php

It´s precisely 25%.

It all depends on how AMD managed to tweak K10 in this shrink. The 3x bigger L3 cache will bring 6%-10% speed boost easily I think.
AMD talked albout IPC improvements in this K10.5. I expect improvements with all together from 5%-10%-15% depending on the benchmark.

In the end it will be faster then yorkfield? It will be very very difficult to happen.

There are 4 cenarios:
- K10.5 brings close to nothing performance improvement over K10 clock-for-clock. (not probable)
- K10.5 with same performance as Kentsfield (very probable)
- K10.5 sit between Yorkfield-Kentsfield. (very probable)
- K10.5 catch yorkfield (not probable)

So, lets just way for full reviews

It was one time in one shop for one guy!
Come on it's nowhere available

Forget him. In the time of 780G when where reports and people on foruns with some 780G he said that there was no 780G on market. Now there is one Corei7 in one forum and he says that it´s available.