Core i7 LAUNCH CONFIRMED: 11/16

[Movieman]

so movieman, where's ur preview on core i7?!!! how much of a beast is it?

Trust me, at the first possible second I am allowed to post I will.
Been running benches till the little beastie was screaming for me to give her a rest!
How much of a beast?
I basicly build and use dual socket 8 core machines as I prefer the dependability and smoothness of those over the single socket gaming boards BUT this thing has some real balls to it.
Yea, it's a beast all right.. It is the real McCoy.
I can't wait to get my hands on the dual socket version but i might have issues there..
I think the Government might raid the house and steal it because of it's capabilities!


Can't decide on a title for my thread when the NDA ends.
Either:
"Nehalem, it's whats for dinner"
or
"Nehalem, when you only care to run the very best!"

[Booj]

Booj that price estimate of yours is still below wholesale buy price by some margin

Thats my point exactly. We've got accounts with a few suppliers and knowing the wholesale prices, it's just insane what they are charging for them.

[Marvin_The_Martian]

Before this get miss quoted in the news papers ... this has nothing to do with Larrabee.

News papers should be more carefull then, we we're only curious and PL having hw donated to them for testing capable of this does smell like it's either a big pr stunt ( Nehalem? ) or a big test of something incredibly good at crunching ( Larrabee? ). I mean, Nvidia did do it right with their whoopass, atleast in the sence of getting the message accros to allot of people what a gpu can do for computing power, maybe Intel saw that and decided to return the favour tenfold, hey we can have such high hopes about their aspirations can we

[OBR]

Nehalem is not a monster like you said, Game performance is +/- the same like Core 2, in some aplications is Core i7 better, but nothing special ...

calm down Movieman Core i7 for that money is total "", and YES end of NDA is under NDA = total stupid ...
But in few days you will be maybe surprised ... whats will be released ...

[Blauhung]

Im sure it is since its been demoed and tested at 1Ghz.

Engineering samples to more people should also be out in late 2008. And thats now.

Larrabee "2" is also already in development with more job hirings.

https://intel.taleo.net/servlets/Car...=en&csNo=10000

Where was it demoed? Are you thinking about the Polaris research chip that hit the headlines again?

Nehalem is not a monster like you said, Game performance is +/- the same like Core 2, in some aplications is Core i7 better, but nothing special ...

calm down Movieman Core i7 for that money is total "", and YES end of NDA is under NDA = total stupid ...
But in few days you will be maybe surprised ... whats will be released ...

but you forget, our buddy Dave doesn't game, he's looking at crunching throughput which is where i7 really is a monster.

[Shintai]

Where was it demoed? Are you thinking about the Polaris research chip that hit the headlines again?

Siggraph if im not mistaken. Its not about the Polaris. This is a 1Ghz running Larrabee.

Im sure RAD game tools also got a few versions

Dreamworks also seems quite convinced....

[savantu]

Siggraph if im not mistaken. Its not about the Polaris. This is a 1Ghz running Larrabee.

Im sure RAD game tools also got a few versions

Dreamworks also seems quite convinced....

It was simulated.

Actual silicon should tape out any day now.

[Blauhung]

It was simulated.

Actual silicon should tape out any day now.

yup, simulated, and I can't comment on the second part

[Jacky]

Nehalem is not a monster like you said, Game performance is +/- the same like Core 2, in some aplications is Core i7 better, but nothing special ...

calm down Movieman Core i7 for that money is total "", and YES end of NDA is under NDA = total stupid ...
But in few days you will be maybe surprised ... whats will be released ...

Most tests we have seen so far were pretty good, overall nehalem seems to be far, far ahead of penryn, but surprisingly there were also some (mostly single-threaded) benchmarks that showed zero gains or reduced performance (games, TMPGEnc w/ smt, CrystalMark 2004R3). Do you mean there will be more of the latter or are you talking from the POV of a biased gamer? (contrary to popular belief the world does not revolve around gaming)
I think dkanter from RWT was quite convinced that nehalem will be a beast (in the server world).

[mascaras]

Intel Preps Overclocking Application for its Core i7 Processors

During IDF Taipei earlier last week Intel demonstrated its DCC (Desktop Control Center) overclock software for the forthcoming Intel Core i7 processors. The DCC is a easy to work with software that will allow overclocking in Windows environment and help novice overclockers and experts. The Desktop Control Center can adjust CPU multiplier, voltage, memory timings and clock speed as well as various system voltage options such as the QPI voltage. The DCC also gives you the option to switch on and off Turbo Boost in Windows, and monitor system temperature readings.



HARDSPELL


http://www.techpowerup.com/74803/Int...rocessors.html

regards

[AuDioFreaK39]

If the NDA lift on Penryn last year was October 31, 2008, will the NDA lift on Nehalem be within the same timeframe?


I'm expecting either October 31st or November 3rd, but since no one cares to speculate with me I'll just leave it at that.

[Drwho?]

Nehalem is not a monster like you said, Game performance is +/- the same like Core 2, in some aplications is Core i7 better, but nothing special ...

calm down Movieman Core i7 for that money is total "", and YES end of NDA is under NDA = total stupid ...
But in few days you will be maybe surprised ... whats will be released ...

I think you are forgetting one little point ... Yorkfield is a monster at games , it did create a very hard to beat competitor. When you look at Phenoms, it is in average 30% behind, in some case more. Adding a 3rd level of Cache and not losing performance, and being able to be around the performance of yorkfield is more than outstanding. Nehalem is a processor that will get some serious boost on video (Will beat Badaboom), will be awesome at 3D rendering, and will be the only server chip that sane person should buy.

And as I always say to the people who feel compelling to criticize with big words as "stupid", try to do it yourself and see if you can do better than us

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I think you are forgetting one little point ... Yorkfield is a monster at games , it did create a very hard to beat competitor. When you look at Phenoms, it is in average 30% behind, in some case more. Adding a 3rd level of Cache and not losing performance, and being able to be around the performance of yorkfield is more than outstanding. Nehalem is a processor that will get some serious boost on video (Will beat Badaboom), will be awesome at 3D rendering, and will be the only server chip that sane person should buy.

And as I always say to the people who feel compelling to criticize with big words as "stupid", try to do it yourself and see if you can do better than us

In all fairness, give me your budget, I'll move that over to AMD and I won't be that surprised if they could come up with something atleast competative. I'm not trying to down talk your archievements, I think since the A64 days, Intel has been pressed hard to come up with an architecture which will be very hard to beat, even if you also have the process node advantage over AMD, you deliverd on the architecture big time

[Drwho?]

In all fairness, give me your budget, I'll move that over to AMD and I won't be that surprised if they could come up with something atleast competative. I'm not trying to down talk your archievements, I think since the A64 days, Intel has been pressed hard to come up with an architecture which will be very hard to beat, even if you also have the process node advantage over AMD, you deliverd on the architecture big time

I am ok to get challenged or criticized, I am not ok when big words are use as "stupid". The OC community can gain a lot by becoming less "fan boy" and more rational. I am very happy to have AMD next to us, keeping us running fast. As a technologist, I love competition, and most of the engineers at Intel do. Just for one reason: "AMD strong = I can ask my manager for more feature in the CPU to go faster"

And again, the "hate" between AMD and Intel exist only in the mind of fan boys, our Kids share the same Sunnyvale and Santa Clara schools, they go to same summer camps. The press is mainly responsible for this feeling, they use sentences with WAR terms. This can only generate issues and create artificial camps, leading to hate, and this is wrong.

Try to keep the olympic spirit, as I do, and let s the race continue! Take the high road, you will get out better!

[Marvin_The_Martian]

I already knew, but it's good to have it repeated on the forum coming from you. Maybe some of the 'fanboys' here will listen to reason, though then again, that goes against the definition of fanboy.

Btw, you're making the intel engineers seem unhuman, sure they like to go fast, but a strong AMD also means they can say, Hey manager, increase my paycheck because I'm the one who's keeping you ahead You're still human are you

[Drwho?]

I already knew, but it's good to have it repeated on the forum coming from you. Maybe some of the 'fanboys' here will listen to reason, though then again, that goes against the definition of fanboy.

Btw, you're making the intel engineers seem unhuman, sure they like to go fast, but a strong AMD also means they can say, Hey manager, increase my paycheck because I'm the one who's keeping you ahead You're still human are you

well, Give me the cash!

[xVeinx]

I am ok to get challenged or criticized, I am not ok when big words are use as "stupid". The OC community can gain a lot by becoming less "fan boy" and more rational. I am very happy to have AMD next to us, keeping us running fast. As a technologist, I love competition, and most of the engineers at Intel do. Just for one reason: "AMD strong = I can ask my manager for more feature in the CPU to go faster"

And again, the "hate" between AMD and Intel exist only in the mind of fan boys, our Kids share the same Sunnyvale and Santa Clara schools, they go to same summer camps. The press is mainly responsible for this feeling, they use sentences with WAR terms. This can only generate issues and create artificial camps, leading to hate, and this is wrong.

Try to keep the olympic spirit, as I do, and let s the race continue! Take the high road, you will get out better!

I vote post of the week

[Marvin_The_Martian]

well, Give me the cash!

Lulz

[STaRGaZeR]

well, Give me the cash!

I somehow knew you were going to post that video. HILARIOUS

to Luc Besson for that movie.

[runmc]

Trust me, at the first possible second I am allowed to post I will.
Been running benches till the little beastie was screaming for me to give her a rest!
How much of a beast?
I basicly build and use dual socket 8 core machines as I prefer the dependability and smoothness of those over the single socket gaming boards BUT this thing has some real balls to it.
Yea, it's a beast all right.. It is the real McCoy.
I can't wait to get my hands on the dual socket version but i might have issues there..
I think the Government might raid the house and steal it because of it's capabilities!


Can't decide on a title for my thread when the NDA ends.
Either:
"Nehalem, it's whats for dinner"
or
"Nehalem, when you only care to run the very best!"

Can I have it when your finished with it??

[Movieman]

Nehalem is not a monster like you said, Game performance is +/- the same like Core 2, in some aplications is Core i7 better, but nothing special ...

calm down Movieman Core i7 for that money is total "", and YES end of NDA is under NDA = total stupid ...
But in few days you will be maybe surprised ... whats will be released ...

I can only go on what I observe and what I see says to me that yes it is a monster in terms of the increase in computational power over the previous generation(Yorkfield and in my case Harpertown cpu's)
I don't game so I can't comment on that factor.
I don't lie, I'm not paid by Intel and my comments are my own not influenced by anyone's opinions except what I see with my own eyes.
Last, I didn't receive this system thru Intel but thru other means so realistically I am not under a signed NDA but under a personal one as it's a matter of honor not legality. You don't spit in someone's face that has done you the immense favor of letting you test an as yet unreleased system by posting benchmarks in the public sector as some have done including yourself.
As to price, they are offerring three levels of chips, and one buys what one decides is best for his/her own financial situation and that has always been the case.
Look at the Harpertowns for example;
A pair of E5420's that will easily do 3GHz can be bought any day for $500.00 if you shop right and will do most anything anyone would have need of but if you want that top speed chip like the QX9775 that will do 4GHz+ you pay close to $3000.00 a pair.
That is life my friend and carries over to all forms of the marketplace.

Where was it demoed? Are you thinking about the Polaris research chip that hit the headlines again?



but you forget, our buddy Dave doesn't game, he's looking at crunching throughput which is where i7 really is a monster.

Yes, you hit it perfectly and it is.

Can I have it when your finished with it??

Who are you? What's your name again?

To all, Runmc is the guy that first told me about Xs over 3 years ago and as good a person as you will ever meet..

[Shintai]

To all, Runmc is the guy that first told me about Xs over 3 years ago and as good a person as you will ever meet..

But that means nothing with your i7 in between

[Movieman]

But that means nothing with your i7 in between

If I was sure he'd put it on WCG and not try to freeze it for benchmarks I might rethink my response..

[T_Flight]

Nehalem is not a monster like you said, Game performance is +/- the same like Core 2, in some aplications is Core i7 better, but nothing special ...

calm down Movieman Core i7 for that money is total "", and YES end of NDA is under NDA = total stupid ...
But in few days you will be maybe surprised ... whats will be released ...

Whoa! I bet he won't be getting anymore samples. If you don't like the term's of an NDA don't agree to it.

[dinos22]

hmmmm so its all runmac's fault then